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lacey herbert restall/phillis restall
« on: Friday 07 August 09 14:48 BST (UK) »
Would be pleased for info.on Lacey Restall &(I believe)his daughter Phillis.She was born 1906 Catherington & both are at 14 Portland Rd,Waterlooville in the 1945 electrol register.Later Lacey`s death registered Gosport 1954 & phillis in Portsmouth 1980.During the war years she worked as a waitress in an hotel,possibly in Waterlooville where the Restalls from at least the 1880`s had a Grocer`s business.Walter,one of Lacey`s elder brothers,later established a similar business around Denmead.

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Re: lacey herbert restall/phillis restall
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 June 10 03:06 BST (UK) »
I have a Herbert Leslie Restall in my family tree... and his dad was born in 1856 in Gloucester, Stroud, England. The names are so close, perhaps they are the same person...

I have Herbert's birthdate somewhere...

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Re: lacey herbert restall/phillis restall
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 June 10 03:47 BST (UK) »
Hi jungling and welcome to RootsChat

It doesn't look to me as if they are the same person

This looks like Lacey in 1901
London Rd (House & Shop))
Waterlooville hants
James Restall Head W 78 Grocer
Alfred Son S 39 grocer's asst
Rose M daughter S 32
LACEY H son S 29 Grocer's assistant
Rose Batchelor Granddaughter 16 dressmaker
all b Waterlooville
RG13 1091 63 12

do you have earlier census?

if you require them please ask

(it seems Lacey's father -james Restall married jane Pook in 1847 and then Eliza Pook in 1857- there were children from both marriages)

Marriage reg freeBMD
LaceyHerbert Restall
Ethel May hawkes
Dec qtr 1905
havant 2b 914

and the birth reg of their children
Phyllis may Restall
Jun qtr 1906
Catherington
2c 160

Vera Ethel Restall
mar qtr 1910
Catherington
2c 151

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: lacey herbert restall/phillis restall
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 June 10 04:19 BST (UK) »
James Restall (father of lacey) was :
1891 Baker , Grocer & Subpostmaster in Waterlooville (nest door to Waterloo Inn
1881 Grocer & Postmaster employing 2 men -next door Waterloo Inn
1871 with wife Eliza and 9children Grocer in Farlington
1861Stakes Rd Farlington, Baker & Grocer with wife Eliza &5 children
1851 Stakes Rd Farlington Baker & Grocer with wife jane and 2 children

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: lacey herbert restall/phillis restall
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 June 10 04:38 BST (UK) »
It looks like Phyliss mary never married

I expect you have this
Death reg
Phyliss mary Restall
born  9 Apr 1906
Death reg mar qtr 1980
Portsmouth

and  the marriage of sister
Vera Ethel Restall
Stanley A F Faulkner
Mar qtr 1941
Gosp[ort
2b 166 2

death reg
Vera Ethel Faulkner
born 23 Dec 1909
death reg mar qtr 1976
S E Hampshire
20 2137

death reg
Stanley Albert F Faulkner
born 24 Mar 1910
Death reg dec qtr 1975
S E Hampshire

looks like Lacey's wife was young when she died
Ethel M Restall
age 21
Sept qtr 1916
Havant
2b 465

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Re: lacey herbert restall/phillis restall
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 June 10 10:00 BST (UK) »
Yes marriage to Eliza Pook was in 1857:

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle  Saturday, November 14, 1857

RUSTALL-POOK one the 8th instant, Mr. James RESTALL, grocer &c.,of Waterloo, near Purbrook, Hants, to Miss Eliza Pook, of Gosport.

James delivered his goods by horse and cart; he advertised for a driver in 1877:

Advertisements & Notices .
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle  Saturday, June 16, 1877;
To Bakers: Wanted a Lad about 16 or 17; one accustomed to mould and deliver goods with horse and cart: Apply to Mr. James Restall, Waterloo-ville, near Cosham, Hants.

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Re: lacey herbert restall/phillis restall
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 June 10 10:20 BST (UK) »
were Jane and Eliza Pook sisters???

They were both b Cowes I.O.W.

what other  kind of information are you Looking for???

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Re: lacey herbert restall/phillis restall
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 June 10 14:04 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to all who have given info.but sorry Jungling your Herbert Restall is not the same man but I appreciate your reply.If there are any living members of this branch of the Restalls,& I know many still reside in the Portsmouth area,I would be pleased to have contact with you.Phillis Restall,as you say,remained unmarried & died about 1980.Although I am not blood related to Phillis,she did have a close connection to my family which I would like to explore further.Her mother Ethel May Hawkes died early but was born in Catherington near what is now classed as Waterlooville & again the family was local.Are you a Hawkes or Restall & can you help?

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Re: lacey herbert restall/phillis restall
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 November 12 21:25 GMT (UK) »
My grandmother was Vera Restall married to Stanley Albert Faulkner
Her sister was known as Nicky (Phyllis)
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