Which John DUNSTAN? COMPLETED

[Bassworm]

Hi All,

My family has an ancestor, a stone mason called John Dunstan (b. c1865 in Wendron, son of another John Dunstan) who married Eliza Moyle (also b. c1865, daughter of Thomas Moyle)  on 6th May 1885 in Redruth.

I'm having a real problem tracking down which John Dunstan he actually is, as there were several Johns born around the same time in that area. Any thoughts on how I can eliminate the numerous 'wrong' Johns please?

The family moved to South Wales sometime before WW1, where John was a stone mason in the mining industry.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Many thanks,
Mike.

[trish1120]

Hi Mike,
Firstly 1891 Census has him as John.W.Dunstan so that is a help

I am unable to Find John W Dunstan, born 1865 with Father John  in 1871/1881 Censuses.
BUT, have found a contender, a stone mason, living with Mother Clarinda and siblings 1881. Interestingly he has a sister Beatrice, which I noticed John named one of his daughters on 1891 Census.

Possibility?

Trish

[osprey]

father not at home in 1871 either - RG10/2300 folio 69 pg 16.

This looks to be their marriage reg
John Dunstone june qtr 1863 Helston vol 5c pg 317 with Clarinda Opie on the same page

possible birth reg
John William Dunstan sept qtr 1863 Helston vol 5c pg 228

[osprey]

on the same page of the 1861 census as Clyrinda Opie and her family in Rame, Wendron RG9/1570 folio 41 pg 18 is this possible family

Elijah Martin head mar 49 grocer b. Constantine
Jane wife 48
John Dunstan son-in-law 21 stone mason
William Martin son 11
Alfred son 6
all born Wendron except where stated

possible baptism for John in 1840
www.rootschat.com/links/06uq/
the father's name being the same as that of John W's brother

[trish1120]

1871 Census
Rame, Wendron, Cornwall
RG10/2300/69/16

Clarinda DUNSTAN, head, mar, 25, stone masons wife, born Wendon
JOHN.W., son, 7, scholar
Eliza.J, 6, daug
Roletta , son, 4
Ellen, daug, 3
Caroline.E, daug, 2
All born Wendron

Next door, James OPIE, 58, stone mason and wife Phillipa Opie, 56, born Wendron/Mabe

Marriage;
John DUNSTONE
June 1863
Helston 5c 317
On same page Clarinda OPIE

1881 if you dont have census access you can search for yourself on Familysearch, Clarinda Dunstan, 1846, Wendron

1891 Clarinda is still alone, a Widow. Roleta and Caroline are still at home. Good sign as John W. if he is yours is married by now.
RG12/1839/88/5

Possible Death;
John Keam DUNSTAN
June 1886
Redruth 5c 192
Age 41

Ok 41yrs in 1886, born c 1845, dies after John and Eliza marry, so would be listed as living on Marriage Cert. Dies before Clarinda is listed as Widow in 1891 census.

Maybe he never appears with Clarinda as he away working all the time . He seems to be around enough to father several children though
I will try to find him alone later. he could be under Dunstan/Dunstone/Dunston etc so make take time.

There is a possible birth for John jnr 1863;
John William DUNSTAN
September 1863
Helston 5c 228
Or he could be reg. just under John

Cheers,
Trish

[trish1120]

Sorry Osprey , ours paths crossed

Great minds think alike

Trish

[trish1120]

Marriage;
Elijah MARTIN
June 1848
Helston
9 155
On same page Jane DUNSTAN

[osprey]

also
Roletta Dunstan june qtr 1838 Helston vol 9 pg 175 with Jane Dunstan on the same page

death reg
Roletta Dunstan dec qtr 1840 Helston vol 9 pg 93

Can't be too many Dunstan families with a Roletta!

 

[trish1120]

I originally automatically put Roletta down as a girl on 1871 census
Lucky the other one was around long enough to Father John in  1839/1840