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William Charlton - Sculcoates
« on: Thursday 06 August 09 10:33 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone

I'm trying to find William Charlton who was born in Sculcoates in the Sept quarter of 1850.  He appears on the 1881 census and onwards with his wife Eliza but I cannot find him on the 1851, 1861 or the 1871.  I am trying to find out who his parents were without ordering his birth certificate if possible.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

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Re: William Charlton - Sculcoates
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 August 09 10:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Goofy,

He seems to be William Chalton in 1851 - do you have access? Ref HO107/2360 288 5

Doesn't solve his parents' names, mind  :P
 
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Re: William Charlton - Sculcoates
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 August 09 10:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks Tati.  It does look like that is him as the address is the address (a farm) he gave on his son's birth certificate many years later but living with Grandmother??  I'm guessing mum died in childbirth as the 11 year old daughter who is living in the same household is too young to be his mum I think.  Why do we always get the answer to a question with another question  ???

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Re: William Charlton - Sculcoates
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 August 09 11:09 BST (UK) »
Going back to 1841, Richard and Martha Chalton are shown with 3 children:

Richard age 10
Harriet age 7
Mary age 3
Sarah age 1

A Richard Charlton marries an Elizabeth Boston in Mar quarter 1850 Sculcoates (but a 1851 quick search siggests he was born in Kent - back to the drawing board  :-\)

Alternatively, little William could belong to Harriet I suppose.

Then there must have been another child whom the other grandchildren shown in 1851 (whose surname I can't make out) belonged to - although Martha seems a bit too young to have had children much older than Richard  ??? 
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Re: William Charlton - Sculcoates
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 August 09 12:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Tati

If Harriett was 7 in 1841 then she was 17 in 1851 so this is a definite possibility.  There is a family tree on Ancestry by another member who has William's parents as Harriett Charlton and Thomas Clayton with another son called James Richard Charlton born 1853 (also to Thomas Clayton).  He has Harriett's parents listed as Richard and Martha!!!  This still does not explain what happened to William in 1861/71 though.  Hmmm  ???
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Re: William Charlton - Sculcoates
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 August 09 14:14 BST (UK) »
Might be worth contacting them to see if the information comes from certs  :)

Can't find William in 1861 or 1871 either - he's not with Harriet Clayton  :(
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Re: William Charlton - Sculcoates
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 August 09 14:24 BST (UK) »
Hi,

William is still with grandma (Martha) in 1861, down as Wm, reference is RG9/3576, Folio 40, Page 7.  There is also another grandson Hy Charlton living there aged 5.

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Re: William Charlton - Sculcoates
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 August 09 13:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Kath & Tati

Thanks to you both for your help.  Still having trouble finding William's father but will try and contact the Ancestry member mentioned earlier to see what info he/she has.

I'm still looking for William on the 1871 census if anyone can help.  The problem is now his address.  My father-in-law says William was involved in a land dispute where William was taken to court but lost.  He decided to take it to the High Court and later won so I am looking into this as well.  It could have something to do with North Gate as on the 1881 census he was living elsewhere.  Would be interested to know his address in 1871.

Kath, with regards Hy Charlton, on the 1881 census there is a Harry Charlton aged 24 living with William who is listed as cousin to him.

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Re: William Charlton - Sculcoates
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 August 09 19:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Goofy,
I think you need to contact my wife Anne whose surname before she married me was Charlton, from the same family.
She has plenty of information and i am sure she would exchange information with you,
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