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Finding Additional Information - Any Advice?
« on: Wednesday 05 August 09 22:13 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have any tips for finding additional information for ancestors? I have exhausted all angles on Census, Bmd, Parish Records at the local archives and was keen to know a bit more about my ancestors.

How could i find out a typical day in the life of my ancestor, business' they owned, or their working life?

Just looking for something extra than an entry in a church register, if you know what i am getting at.

Thankyou.

Tim
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley

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Re: Finding Additional Information - Any Advice?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 August 09 22:24 BST (UK) »
Hi timmie,

 a couple of sites here.With Google books, try searching the county, date in which your ancestors lived.. I was looking for London poulterers and found some great extracts from contempory writers in the 19th Century .

Look on here (Rootschat) for the "useful links " quite a few will take you to sites pertaining to social history


http://vision.port.ac.uk/

http://www.google.co.uk/books?hl=en

Spring
Dorset: Ackerman,Bungey,Bunter Chant,Hyle
Islington:Bedford, Eaton,Wilkins
Beds,Fulham: Brazier
Shoreditch: Burton,Coverdale
Essex ,Clerkenwell:Craswell,Cresswell
St.Lukes Middx:Doughty, Dunkley
Andover/IOW/Fulham:Gasser
Fulham: Neal
Bucks:Putnam,Wingrove
Bullwell.Notts:Wilkinson
Clerkenwell/Islington:Wyllie
Herts/ Tottenham/Walthamstow:Young

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Re: Finding Additional Information - Any Advice?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 August 09 22:33 BST (UK) »
Try Historical Directories (www.historicaldirectories.org ) for addresses between censuses and occupations - eg it often says Joe Bloggs, lamplighter,  99 Any Street.  

Try local newspapers on Gale Newspaper Archive - I found several relatives placing adverts or BMD notices or their goings-on reported in the newspaper.  You may be able to access Gale through your local library.

Try Google Books - I found an obituary of an ancestor who died in 1817.

I also found an ancestor who was the victim of a crime - she had a bed cover stolen and the thief ended up at the Old Bailey (records are online).  Her own words are recorded "I recognised my bedcover by the stain on it".  Fantastic to "hear" their words from 200+years ago

None of these people were particularly posh, they just happened to be in the right place at the right time!
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway

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Re: Finding Additional Information - Any Advice?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 August 09 02:22 BST (UK) »
Try Historical Directories (www.historicaldirectories.org ) for addresses between censuses and occupations - eg it often says Joe Bloggs, lamplighter,  99 Any Street.  

Try local newspapers on Gale Newspaper Archive - I found several relatives placing adverts or BMD notices or their goings-on reported in the newspaper.  You may be able to access Gale through your local library.

Try Google Books - I found an obituary of an ancestor who died in 1817.

I also found an ancestor who was the victim of a crime - she had a bed cover stolen and the thief ended up at the Old Bailey (records are online).  Her own words are recorded "I recognised my bedcover by the stain on it".  Fantastic to "hear" their words from 200+years ago

None of these people were particularly posh, they just happened to be in the right place at the right time!

Gales is wonderful! I found loads of BMD's for my family on there.
There was even a report of an ancestor being a gamekeep & he and his son (with same name) being shot by poachers, thankfully not fatally or I wouldnt be here, the son was my gt-gt-gt-grandad & he was only 10 at the time!
(Check with your local library - you MAY be able to get free access via your library card, I know our County Library do, but the local library dont - which is why I now have two library cards - both of which I am entitled to use!)

Try going to one of the 'old occupations' site & looking at your ancestors occupations, its enlightening.

I also find TV programmes, like "The Victorian Farm" interesting cos I had a lot of rural families in my tree, this one was even better for me cos I knew Acton Scott very well, having lived in the same area for a number of years, and my Mums side of the family came from Shropshire too, I have an Ag-Lab I can trace thru every cencus from a 1 year old in 1841 to grandfather in 1911 still working and it was fascinating seeing all the changes he would have witnessed in his lifetime.

Even programmes like "Casualty 1901" (or whatever year it was set i didnt pay attention) and the one about the inflenza epidemic in 1918 help to get an idea what life was like for ordinary people even those 'outside' the main casts, look at the stories of the casualties, factory workers, people living in Workhouses & policemen etc and it gives you a fair bit of information on ordinary peoples lives.

I have also rooted around in the library & got out books either about an area, or fiction set in certain areas to give you a 'feel' of how it was to be there then.

See if there are any local interest centres, or museums in the area you can visit, here in Oldham we have a local History Centre, and up in Uppermill there is a heritage museum, I know Coalbrookdale down in shropshire also has several heritage museums including a coal mining one - find out what your relatives did, and then see if there are any museums in the area for the occupation, or even anywhere else in the country.

Gaille
Manchester – Bate(s) / Bebbington / Coppock or Coppart / Evans / Mitchell / Prince / Smith

Cheshire Latchford – Bibby / Savage / Smith.
Cheshire Macclesfield,  Bollington & Rainow – Childs / Flint / Mc'rea
Cheshire Crewe – Bate(s) / Bebbington
Shropshire Wellington, Wobwell – Smith
Walsall Midds – Smith
Norfolk - Childs / Hanwell / Smith

Also looking for:
Mc'Rea/McCrea – Ireland to Cheshire

And
any relatives of Margaret Bibby married to Thomas Smith all over country


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Re: Finding Additional Information - Any Advice?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 August 09 02:45 BST (UK) »


I was looking for London poulterers and found some great extracts from contempory writers in the 19th Century .


Spring

Hi Spring,
I'm interested in London Pouterers too. Can you point me towards anything specific?


Just to add that the newspapers obviously give details about what was going on in the days your ancestors lived, so even if they were not important or naughtly or lucky enough to get a mention, by reading the papers that they read, this will give you an insight about the times they lived in.

Also the history of the time might add to your understanding of your ancestors. What was happening in the world when they were around? It always astounds me when I'm researching ancestors from the 1700's that Cook was just 'discovering' Australia at that time. Which is where I now live.  ;D

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 August 09 03:14 BST (UK) »

... There was even a report of an ancestor being a gamekeep & he and his son (with same name) being shot by poachers ...


Those poachers!!  I had an ancestor whose house was dynamited by a man he caught poaching rabbits.  I found this information through the Gale Newspaper Archive.

There are nuisance poachers on RootsChat, too.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 August 09 16:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruskie,

If you go to "Google Books"

http://www.google.co.uk/books?hl=en

and in the Search box enter the name of say, Newgate Market London (there is another in York) , this will take you to books within Goggle Books. There are also entries under London Poulterers (I haven't explored those yet!)
Some will only have small highlighted references,( these small snippets are where Google has not got permission to add more extracts)
 but others will lead you to full page entries from Journals etc of the era.It is a matter of working your way through.

some really fascinating observations by the authors and you can visualise them with perfumed handkerchiefs regarding the squalor with distaste.

Clare Market leads you (2nd page of links) to descriptions of other markets of the times.


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Dorset: Ackerman,Bungey,Bunter Chant,Hyle
Islington:Bedford, Eaton,Wilkins
Beds,Fulham: Brazier
Shoreditch: Burton,Coverdale
Essex ,Clerkenwell:Craswell,Cresswell
St.Lukes Middx:Doughty, Dunkley
Andover/IOW/Fulham:Gasser
Fulham: Neal
Bucks:Putnam,Wingrove
Bullwell.Notts:Wilkinson
Clerkenwell/Islington:Wyllie
Herts/ Tottenham/Walthamstow:Young

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Re: Finding Additional Information - Any Advice?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 August 09 22:00 BST (UK) »

... There was even a report of an ancestor being a gamekeep & he and his son (with same name) being shot by poachers ...


Those poachers!!  I had an ancestor whose house was dynamited by a man he caught poaching rabbits.  I found this information through the Gale Newspaper Archive.

There are nuisance poachers on RootsChat, too.

you rang ;D ;D ;D

as for poacher's shooting game keepers, that works both ways, was shot at several times in the past for poaching, lucky for me he was a cr*p shot ;D ;D ;D