Author Topic: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington  (Read 6801 times)

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Re: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington
« Reply #18 on: Monday 10 August 09 09:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

You have the divorce proceedings documentation. There would be no need to continue through from decree nisi to decree absolute if Albert was dead. His death would release Laura from the marriage.

On the 1881 census Charles Hixon and his family were living at 10 Kensington Place. Charles was a gas fitter employing 1 man and 1 boy, so as a small business man it would be possible for him to just about fund divorce proccedings. RG11 25 folio 40. Since Charles was a near neighbour of the Walkers it looks as if the break up of Albert and Laura's marriage may have been reasonably amicable and he met Laura through the Walkers. Divorce proceedings were adversial by the nature of the law that governed them. If so perhaps both parties wished to remarry after the death of Charles' first wife in 1883? It depends whether the marriage you found with Charles, if it is correct, occurred soon after the divorce or later.

There doesn't seem any other evidence that will now close the time gap between decree absolute 11th August 1885 and Ada's birth (posthumously or was the registration posthumously - how close were the two?) 9th August 1887. If Ada was the child of Albert John and there is no evidence to say she wasn't, then Albert (normal pregnancy period) would have to have been alive in November 1886.

If the death is on the GRO index it is possible to get quite problematic registrations - distraught relative, very busy registrar. One of the worst I've had was a James whose death was registered by his widow as John William Henry. Luckily that man had a far more unsual surname than Walker. Institutions can get names wrong and sometimes people get registered in their 'pet names' which can be very different from their actual names - Mark registered as Henry for instance is another example. People's deaths not registered by relatives where deaths have occurred away from the family are all good reasons for a death not quite registered with the information you expect.


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Re: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington
« Reply #19 on: Monday 10 August 09 13:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Valda

The registration of Ada's birth was on 25 September 1887 so I suppose the most likely time of Albert John's death would have been between November 1886 and September 1887.

My question regarding the possibility of the proceedings being online (or published) was prompted by the fact that there were witnesses and oral evidence. I have the petition and the judge's decision but presumably. The oral evidence would have been recorded.

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Re: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 07:12 BST (UK) »
Hi

What you should have is what survives the legal documentation of the time, presuming TNA has photocopied all the papers  in J77.  I'm sure the judge would have written his personal notes but the only time I have seen surviving judge's notes was for a prominent murder case and certainly never in a civil case or any other criminal case.

The National Archives research guide

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=53


If the case was interesting enough, or the people were prominent it may have been covered by a local newspaper, but from my experience searching local newspapers in London at about the sametime for a divorce that was of a similar class of people but a little less 'respectable' and therefore perhaps more news worthy I couldn't find anything.


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Re: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 12:54 BST (UK) »
2 Albert Street in Paddington can be found in 1881 at RG11/5/20 page 3.

Residents in 1881 were in two households:
1.  Samuel H. Moss, 51 and wife Mary
2. Alfred George (age '15', surely wrong), wife Charlotte, step-daughter Harriet Knott, a lodger, Joseph Grant, and a visitor Elizabeth Pearett.

Most of the addresses along the street have a couple of families in them, and many also have lodgers; so she may have just been temporarily renting a room.
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Re: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington
« Reply #22 on: Monday 17 August 09 11:59 BST (UK) »
Time for an update.

I have now confirmed to my satisfaction that the marriage between Albert John WALKER and Laura WESTON was dissolved in the High Court of Justice upon the petition of Laura on the grounds of desertion and adultery. The decree absolute was dated 11 August 1885, the desertion took place in 1872.

It seems most probable that Laura sued for divorce in order to marry. From FreeBMD the most likely candidate appeared to be Laura WALKER married on May 14th 1887 and found on the 1891 census as the wife of Charles HIXON, Laura born in the Isle Of Wight. Charles HIXON does not appear in FreeBMD but reference to the GRO index shows that the registration of his marriage was recorded on the same page as Laura but is not included in FreeBMD. I have obtained the marriage certificate and alas it appears that it is not Laura WALKER, divorcee formerly WESTON, but the daughter of William WALKER, tailor. So we must seek another wedding I think.

However I think I have made progress with the death of Albert John WALKER. I have discovered with the help of Kensington and Chelsea Register office that there was no death registered between November 1886 and September 1887 for Albert John but there was a death registered on 16 February 1887 for Henry WALKER who was living prior to his admission to hospital at the same address as Mary Jane WALKER when she registered the birth of her child Ada on 25 September 1887, stating the father Albert John WALKER to be deceased. It seems likely that Albert John was recorded by the Kensington Infirmary as Henry and so named when they certified and registered his death. Far from proof positive but a likely explanation.

To eliminate the possibility of Albert John having died earlier and there being another father of Mary Ann's fifth and sixth children I obtained the birth certificates of Percy Albert John WALKER and Arthur William Owen WALKER. Percy was born on 21 December 1881 at 6 Kensington Place, father stated to be Henry WALKER, coachman, although when he was baptised he said that his father was Albert, and Arthur's certificate states that he was born on 6th May 1884, father Herbert John WALKER. In each case mother is Mary Ann WALKER formerly WOLFE (as indeed she should be!)

Whether Mary Ann lived in a state of perpetual confusion or the Registrar (C R Barnes in each case including the death registration) was particularly hard of hearing is anyone's guess ... or perhaps Mary Ann was deliberately mischievous!

Extraordinary don't you think?

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Re: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington
« Reply #23 on: Monday 17 August 09 12:56 BST (UK) »
Sounds like Albert/Herbert/Henry had a history of switching his names around - possibly to avoid his wife, or just to avoid creditors. ;)

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/25518/pages/4709
 - seems like it was Alfred Toulmin-Smith (I think he was the son of Joshua Toulmin-Smith) and Ernest Arthur Fuller who ran Toulmin-Smith & Fuller.
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Re: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington
« Reply #24 on: Monday 17 August 09 13:24 BST (UK) »
Hi

As I said you can get very different names for death registrations. People are not necessarily at their best when registering a death and institutions can get it very wrong particularly if the person entered the institution in the name he/she was called by the family - the pet name which is this case might be Henry. Mary Ann just didn't like the name Albert? The example I gave was Mark who turned into Henry only after his marriage. I deliberate gave the Henry example having seen the only Kensington possibility for the death registration, but with a surname like Walker being so common and no other evidence of a pet name it looked a long shot  and not spot on for the age either.
Working class people turning up at the registrar's office were not necessarily comfortable in front of middle class officialdom and it depends how officious and busy that registrar was, how strong the dialect/accent of the person concerned was, who might be able to read to a degree but probably was less competent at writing, whether they had a full set of teeth, particularly front ones and whether they were tired/rushed (registering if you were working would mean a loss of pay) or had popped into the pub to bolster their spirits, or were fabricating the information for their own reasons, weren't sure about the information, there is a misindexing in the index (no checks in the system), in the transcription......... really so many possible reasons why a registration might not be quite as expected.

On the marriage certificate you have, what information is given about Charles Hixon? Can we confirm that against the Charles Hixon we have?
The couple are not necessarily going to admit one of them is divorced unless they have to and if I remember correctly you have already stated Laura was illegitimate - again standard that illegitimate people do not admit their illegitimacy unless it is known and they have to. They fabricate fathers or give fathers the correct information, if they know it, except for their surnames which are the same as their own. In the case of a woman known as Walker amongst friends and neighbours for some years it may be just easier to go on as Walker for the marriage ceremony rather than complicate the issue. Marrying without all the strictly truthful details does not make the marriage illegal. You can be known by any name you like and Laura was free to marry.

The surname Hixon can be mispelt but in the actual spelling of Hixon there are relatively few instances of Charles Hixon as a name in FreeBMD. On that principle the odds are against a Charles Hixon marrying a Laura Walker in the right area and right time scale and being a doppleganger. If they are a doppleganger couple is there any evidence of their existance?

The only registration for a Laura Hixon either marriage or Death on FreeBMD after 1887.

Deaths Mar 1929  
Hixon  Laura  89  Kensington  1a 260
 
The only marriage or death registration for a Charles Hixon in London (1 marriage in Bedford, one in Wolverhampton, 2 deaths in Birmingham)

Deaths Dec 1901  
Hixon  Charles  76  Paddington  1a 45


I'd have thought with all the misindexing and incorrect information supplied on all the other records you have you would be approaching this possible marriage with a mindset of trying to prove or eliminate it not just discarding it straightaway because some of the elements don't fit the known facts (though different from trying to shoe horn something into place that doesn't fit because it is all that has been found). That is why I'm suggesting starting with Charles as he is less likely to have a reason to fabricate information.
Is he a widower, what is his age and what is his occupation? Are any of the witnesses Hixons? Is the address one of convenience?


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Valda
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Re: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington
« Reply #25 on: Monday 17 August 09 13:44 BST (UK) »
Hi

1861 census RG9 17 folio
Campden Street Kensington
Charles Hixon 34 Head Married Gasfitter Blackfriars Surrey
Emma Hixon 31 Wife Married  Braid Maker London Middlesex
Emma Hixon 7 Daughter Nottinghaill Middlesex
Henrietta Hixon 1 Daughter Nottinghill Middlesex

Marriages Mar 1853
HEATH  Emma     Kensington  1a 127   
HIXON  Charles     Kensington  1a 127


I would expect Blackfriars to be Christchurch Surrey so this is a possible baptism

CHARLES HIXON 
Christening:  07 JAN 1827   Christ Church, Southwark, London
Father:  THOMAS HIXON 
Mother:  ELIZABETH 


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Re: Albert John WALKER, coachman, of Kensington
« Reply #26 on: Monday 17 August 09 16:43 BST (UK) »
Yes, upon reflection I am inclined to think that you are right Valda and the Hixon/Walker marriage is the one we want. Whilst I cannot see why Laura is happy to acknowledge her maiden name in a divorce proceedings yet fictionalise her father and his occupation on her marriage certificate.

Nevertheless her birth in Newchurch, as stated on subsequent censuses, is surely the clincher. I will double check some earlier research I did to eliminate the possibility of a Laura Walker in Newchurch around 1841 and if I confirm there is none, accept Laura Hixon.

Thank you and Jorose for your interest and your contributions which have been an enormous help.

LenD