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Re: Please help me find out just who was Helen[Nellie] Loag's parents
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 06 August 09 01:48 BST (UK) »
Uh oh, now I'm really confused... Here is Hugh in 1901 after Mary's death. Living with him is the William who was William Caw in the last census, called his son. Now he is William Smith, his grandson! I think he is probably Mary's from her marriage with William Smith???These people are amazing! :o


1901
Hugh B Caw, 50, Head, born Perth, Railway Stores Man
William Smith, 14, Grandson, born Glasgow,Railway Weighers Assistant
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Re: Please help me find out just who was Helen[Nellie] Loag's parents
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 06 August 09 01:52 BST (UK) »
I hope you are sitting down, because the plot is thickening with some startling results

I downloaded Samuel Loag and Mary Ann Muir Murray's marriage certificate. His occupation is a coachman, which fits with the 1891 and 1901 occupation of van driver. He must have become a photographer's manager later on.

His parents are Samuel Loag Iron(molder?), deceased and Mary Loag M.S. Martin!!!! Help!

That was the name of the mother of wee Nellie... and perhaps she had married the William Smith, brassfinisher after her husband Samuel died in 1880.

So it looks like Nellie/Helen Loag was actually Samuel's half sister, rather than his daughter!
He and Mary Ann must have taken her on and raised her as their own daughter. Trouble is, the real father is never mentioned by name... On the birth cert, which turns out to be  Nellie after all, she just states that her husband is not the father of the child. Helen must have grown up thinking that her mother was really her grandmother and her brother was really her father!
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Re: Please help me find out just who was Helen[Nellie] Loag's parents
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 06 August 09 17:58 BST (UK) »
The mother and daughter's names are confusing but I think Nellie's mother was definitely Mary Martin Logue born 1864. Parents - Samuel Logue/Loag and Mary Martin.

This can be proved by the fact that when Nellie was born Mary Martin Logue born 1864 was still married to William Smith as stated on her birth entry.

Out of interest who were the witnesses at Nellie's marriage?

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Annette

 

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Re: Please help me find out just who was Helen[Nellie] Loag's parents
« Reply #21 on: Friday 07 August 09 03:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Annette,

The witnesses at Helen[Nellie's ] marriage to Robert McCracken [ 10/06/1910 ] were William  & Ruby Voy.

Mary Ann Muir Murray died 14/06/1915, then Samuel married a Joanna Voy.

The witnesses could be her family?

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Brenda
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