Lloyd London Mystery

[fallingonabruise]

more mystery !!!
Pallots marriage index,

Nightingale Eliza Vaughan .s
= John Ballard Lloyd .b
Cheam 1829

what 

[winston]

HI

This is just to point out to be cautious of too many news entries relating to Law, Solicitors and Magistrates of entries where teh letter J B Lloyd are in the same text. 

Reason is that I did a gazette search for JB Lloyd as you all have and have then done a search for the address that shows agains the solicitor address that being 54 Castle Street Liverpool and found an entry to show that a John Buck Lloyd bn 1807 Coventry was in fact dealing form that address as was a Phillip F Garnett bn 1823 Toxteth


Just felt compelled to post that info...


Wendy

[fallingonabruise]

I checked out the John Buck Lloyd in liverpool the other day, he was the Mayor.
 
Everything we have found always has JBL's Full name, He must have been proud of the Ballard bit    thankfully, as otherwise I'd still be working through millions of John Lloyds

[MonicaL]

I wonder if Eliza was illegitimate? From IGI:

ELIZA VAUGHAN NIGHTINGALE Birth: 26 MAR 1810/ Christening:  20 JUL 1823 St Giles Cripplegate, London
Parents: HANNAH NIGHTINGALE

If she used Vaughan as her middlename (like JBL used Ballard in his reporting), may explain why the children of JBL and Eliza showed in their christenings on IGI with mother's name as Eliza Vaughan (which I read as surname but actually could well have been her middle name).

Monica

[fallingonabruise]

at least she seemed to be in contact with her father 
can't find any sign of George marrying Hannah,

so, who was JBL's mother and stepfather ? Nelson Square sounds a posh address,

and how to find out about his time on board Castle Huntly ?

[MonicaL]

Picture and some background on Nelson Square here www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/45355

Monica

[MonicaL]

Pity we can't find one for these for the time of JBL's time on the Castle Huntly - includes a drawing of the ship http://tiny123.com/1wy

Monica

[fallingonabruise]

The one b. 1807 St. Clements Worcester does seem to have lived; he is in the St. John Hill workhouse in 1871 (Wandsworth and Clapham Union, located in Battersea.  Aged 63, a baker, married.
(There is a John Lloyd, no middle name, d. 1877 aged 70 in Wandsworth district on freebmd)

Back to the Josiah Wilson link:
In 1859 a Louisa, second daughter of the late James Collins, died at the house of her brother in law, Josiah Wilson, of Stamford Hill.

Sure enough, there is also a marriage in 1802 for Benjamin Lloyd and Elizabeth Collins at St. Michael, Worcester.

Also look at The Times, Saturday, Nov 11, 1837; pg. 4; Issue 16571;
Collins (Charles Frederick Collins, youngest son of James) v. Wilson (presumably Josiah?)
There seems to have been some wrangling over this will from the beginning.

The details can be found in the Law Report of 1838 at http://books.google.com

The seven children were: James, Henry, Mary Anne, Louisa, Eliza, Amelia, and Charles Frederick; but Eliza is listed in 1831 as "Eliza Collins" while Amelia is listed under her married name, so I'm not convinced she's the same as the Elizabeth who married in 1802 (or indeed that the 1802 marriage is the right oe).

At last ! I have worked out what this was all about ! Sorry jorose !
We didn't see the first half of the report in The Times !
I will have to type it out later !

[fallingonabruise]

but still can't work out how to find any of it on google books