Lloyd London Mystery

[fallingonabruise]

'went to live with Mr. Vaughan at Battersea, where he continued, as he states in''.

 gave up that business, and, as he states in his evidence, took to railroads, and went ...

'after we rind him residing at Mitcham asa private gentleman there, in the year '.

'lodger at the Red or Golden Lion, Camberwell, as a private gentleman, and soon' .

[MonicaL]

Courtesy of TNA, from Jstor:

This pamphlet I think seems to be in an addition to a main enquiry that was on going in respect of the London Grand Junction Railway and what seems to have been a bit of a scam, naturally with JBL at the heart of it 

John Ballard Lloyd, a baker, another witness to the alleged fact, stated (p.71) that he had called upon 1400 persons, but cannot say within a week or two (p.28); had kept no book which would point out date when he called upon any one of them, but only the result of his calling; and as he was contradicted by several witnesses, who appeared on the other side, and I was prevented by the Committee (see p. 36) from following up on his cross examination so as to have made him tell some of part of his own history, in order to be able to judge the better of his veracity, I have deemed it due to the characters of the persons whom he contradicted, as well as to the general question, to make further enquiry as to him, and the result will be found below.*

More in the next post...

[MonicaL]

John Ballard Lloyd a native of Liverpool. In 1823 he was appointed a midshipman aboard the East India trade ship Castle Huntly, Captain Drummond, and entered on board of that vessel on January 17, 1824, and, having completed one voyage, he finally left that service on the 26 April 1825. Some time after he left the East India Company’s service, he went to reside with his mother and his stepfather, who then lived in Nelson Square; he afterwards resided some time with his uncle, a Mr Lloyd of Norwood; we afterwards find him residing near Whitechapel with a Mr Lloyd, perhaps the same uncle; we then find him a lodger at the Red or Golden Lion, Camberwell, as a private gentleman, and soon after we find him residing at Mitcham as a private gentleman; there in the year 1826 he got acquainted with Miss Eliza Vaughan, the only child of Mr George Vaughan, carrying a business as a baker and general shop keeper; he decoyed the daughter , then about sixteen years of age, from a stage coach, and after living with her about eight or nine months, was, about April, 1827, married to her at Cheme Church; some time after Mr Vaughan took a business in Battersea and after instructing Lloyd in the business at Mitcham he gave it up to Mr and Mrs Lloyd and went to reside in Battersea. In the year 1830, only about nine or ten months after he was put into the business at Mitcham, Lloyd failed , and went to live in Battersea with Mr Vaughan where he continued , as he states in his evidence, nearly five years: about June, 1833, his name was substituted on the shop at Battersea for the name of Vaughan, which till then had been on the shop; Lloyd then carried on the business at Battersea until October, 1835, when he gave up that business, and as he states in his evidence, took to the railroads, and went to live at County Terrace, New Kent Road, where he resided when he got into the employment of Richardson , to take assents and dissents of the proprietors on this line of railway. About the middle of April he says he went to live in Ligonier Street, a .....

The next page (31) seems to have moved on from this section. Not sure if the page order is out on the images and didn't have time to go through the other 53 pages! I did asearch by key words so not sure.

What does this word mean "he decoyed the daughter" other than the plain obvious. Except it was from a stagecoach....

Monica 

Added: de·coyed, de·coy·ing, de·coys: To lure or entrap by or as if by a decoy. Lordy, he kidnapped  her!

[ShaunJ]

Back to this thread after a long absence......"Cheme" must be Cheam surely ?

[MonicaL]

Would have thought so Shaun  Given there is no marriage to be found between JBL and Lavinia, this may be the only hope of confirming his father! Any thoughts on how to find this marriage 

Monica

[fallingonabruise]

His life gets more and more complicated ,
sailor, kidnapper, baker, shopkeeper,  
the plot yet again thickens !!!!!!!!!!

[MonicaL]

Don't forget from Shaun's previous notes:

1836 - manager, General Cabriolet Conveyance Company ( share offer August 1836)

1853 - in prison for insolvency. Had been promoter of "The City of London Brewing and Malting Company" and formerly a commercial traveller

And as always, a gentleman 

[MonicaL]

Andria

See this link - No. 7 - regarding parish records for Cheam www.londonlibraries.org/library/15761/Sutton Central Library

You might be able to make enquires by phone or email regarding that possible 1827 marriage.

Monica

[fallingonabruise]

I'll try ringing tomorrow, that is one very wanted certificate !