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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #90 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 14:35 BST (UK) »
Have a look at this quite recent post here on RC, particularly the later entries. Maybe some ideas on how to proceed..

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,402274.0.html

Also worthwhile keeping an eye out for any possible ways of looking up that possible first marriage we found for JBL at St Mary's Battersea.

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #91 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 19:47 BST (UK) »
Hi all, Can't bear when a search goes coldish!!! Don't know what I did to deserve it but managed to see whole pages of the St Saviour's Marriage Banns register for 1842!

Yes the banns were read on successive weeks - 21/8, 28/8 & 4/9,  and logged by S Benson, he is a widower and she a spinster, but sadly there is no marriage listed in first part of the register and there is no margin reference to a marriage like the majority of the banns entries. Sorry but I found another set banns for a couple of the same name. will explore and post again in a moment, Thinlizy
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #92 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 20:01 BST (UK) »
 :-* Thank you TL. Now why did it not work for me I wonder  ??? Are able to see the two sides for the actual marriage entries in the first section?

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #93 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 20:04 BST (UK) »
I was just about to post this message when it said there was new posts,

I went to the library to have a look,
how rubbish are those pictures !!! what on earth was the point in putting them on !!!! has anyone in charge of ancestry actually looked at them ! ??? ???

Did you see there were 2 entries ? one in 1842 and one about 65 ish ( i forgot a pen so ...)
does this mean they didn't get married in 42? or is it another error in the rubbish records that you can't see ?

I did find out that one of thier daughters Adeline Clara Eliz. married Alfred Norris so that cheered me up slightly (they were both witnesses on Florences wedding cert)

Oh and JBL was still a 'gentleman' on Florences wed.cert in 1880
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I wonder why we only got  a corner of the page ????????

thanks Thinlizy, you'v got me al excited again ! ;D
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #94 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 20:07 BST (UK) »
arrrrggghhh the suspense is killing me !!! ;D
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #95 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 20:12 BST (UK) »
Just had a thought from what TL has said regarding there being no annotation on the register of the actual wedding date following banns...

Do you remember on one of the court/newspaper reports that you found Andria that it mentioned the judge being not at all happy with JBL, given the court had just received a letter from very unhappy wife?

My twisted mind is wondering whether that 1842 marriage actually went ahead following banns if JBL was actually still married to Eliza Vaughan and this was found out before the marriage to Lavinia could take place.....

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #96 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 20:16 BST (UK) »
I was thinking that, but Thinlizy said he was down as a widower, so maybe they were going to get married and pretended Eliza vaughan was dead, but got caught out and had to wait till the 1865one ? ???
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #97 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 20:23 BST (UK) »
Hi all, to much traffic I can't get my next post off
The 2nd Banns were at St George the Martyr Wandsworth Middlesex. in 1864!!
Same details for the couple JBL is still a widower! and Lavinia is a spinster. Banns read 9/10, 16/10 & 23/10 by Hugh Allan. There is no margin annotation indication if a marriage took place and there are no marriage records as in the earlier Parish record book. This is probably due to Statutory Registration from 1855?

Yes, managed to see all the pages by scrolling with the 'grabby hand' pointer or what ever it's called. Thinlizy
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #98 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 20:29 BST (UK) »
thanks Thinlizy  ;D i've been on pins for 20 minutes  ;D
well I wonder what happened then, did they ever get married ?
how strange ??? ???
got to nip off for an hour, but back later to ponder over this  ;D
thanks again thinlizy for all your help  ;D

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