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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #81 on: Sunday 09 August 09 23:53 BST (UK) »
(Before commissioner Phillips) nov. 1853
The matter of John Ballard Lloyd.
This insolvent, who was described as the promoter of 'The City of London Brewing and Malting Company'. applied to be discharged under the act.
Mr Sargood opposed for Messers.Sarl, silversmiths of Cornhill.
It appeared that the insolvent had been a commercial Traveller, and in 1852 concieved a project called ' 'The City of London Brewing and Malting Company'.
He advertised and got names, which he set forth in a prospectus, and the company was provisionally registered, but nothing further was done.
The object of the company, when formed , was to obtain cheap beer.
He obtained £52 of plated silver articles of Messers.Sarl, which he pledged within a fortnight to sustain the company.
He got the articles for the intended company.
Mr Sargood questioned the insolvent on the project, and on the money he had raised by pledging property to support the offices, and he afterwards gave the tickets to Mr Denton,who had employed him as a traveller.
The learned counsel prayed the attendence of the secretary of the company.
Mr Commissioner Phillips acquiesced in the application of the learned councel, and ajourned the case for several purposes, including the attendence of the secretary.
The insolvent was remanded to prison.
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 23:19 BST (UK) »
Another newspaper repot mentions Johns addresses, might these be any use ?

formerly of no.8, st Thomas street stepney,
and no.18 Cornhill, London,
then of Emmett's cottage, Hornsey road, Hornsey, Middlesex.
and late of 8 Leslie street, Mile end road ,middlesex.

8 Leslie st is where Grenville was born.

plus found out today that his sister, Florence Georgina Henrietta Lloyd who was born in 1856 also has JBL as father on her birth cert.
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 12:20 BST (UK) »
Guess what popped up on Ancestry today ?
marriage between Lavinia Ann Cheatham and John Bollard (?)Lloyd !
but I can't see any details as I don't have the right membership !
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 12:28 BST (UK) »
How exciting  ;D You and I have the same membership so I'm no use  :P Hopefully someone can help out. Might be worthwhile you showing where you found it on the records so people know where to look.

Monica  :)
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 12:36 BST (UK) »
I am so excited  ;D
its in the London, england, marriages and banns(1754_1921)
but if you just do a basic search for Lavinia Ann Cheatham its the first thing that pops up ,
would be grateful if anyone could have a look  ;D
I think our library is open today so will call in after picking kids up from school,
(but thats hours to wait!!! ;D)
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 13:22 BST (UK) »
 :o I can access it!

 :'( :'( :'( Half the entry has been cut off on the image would you believe...boooo¬!

It's entry No. 575 (page 192). Entry on Page 191 No. 572 shows as married 22 Sept 1842, so marriage for JBL and Lavinia shortly after this I would imagine.

The entry is the reading of the banns x 3 dates and I would also imagine (if I could actually see it!) that on the margin would be the actual marriage date like it is on the opposite page.

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 13:44 BST (UK) »
 ??? argh !
is there anything to say where they were married ?
is this enough info to get a cert ?
******!!
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 13:57 BST (UK) »
The whole file seems to relate to St Saviours Parish, Southwark, Surrey. The way the file (59 pgs) seems to be put together (but I can't check it properly because 2/3 of the right hand pages are missing, is the first section seems to be the marriage entries themselves on the registers and the second section would appear to be the banns. Bad scanning/imageing of entries  :-\

I've checked through the September and October marriage entries, those that show on the left hand side of the registers but, you guessed it, nothing shows for JBL and Lavinia so my guess they are probably on the right hand side page of the register of which you can only see a little bit..........so close  :'(
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 14:08 BST (UK) »
who photographs these things !!  :( what a set of idiots !!

Poor Lavinia must have been either very pregnant or had just popped as little Lavinias birth is oct/nov/dec 1842 !

what now ? ???

thanks for looking by the way  ;D
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