Lloyd London Mystery

[ShaunJ]

"King Sillyninny, who sold his wife for half a guinea, or, Harlequin and the enchanted princess', (altered from 'King Sillyninny or Harlequin and the charmed half-guinea'), pantomime by F. G. Cheatham.  Licence sent 22 December 1862 for performance at the Pavilion. "

http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/manuscripts/HITS0001.ASP?VPath=arevhtml/78952.htm&Search=Add.+53018+D&Highlight=F

[tbirduk]

sorry mails crossed, I menat the Census entry showing George H and my appalling mental maths that gave me a DOB of 1823 against George W's DOB of 1827

By the way the Francis Cheetham Christening was St Dunstan's, Stepney

[fallingonabruise]

I only popped out for a hour and look at all this info !!!!
Pete, thank you for that clue ! (I have replied to your email )
Shaun and Monica, you are both so clever ! thank you both so much for all your hard work, its very much apreciated 
I shall now try to calm down and study it all 

[tbirduk]

"King Sillyninny, who sold his wife for half a guinea, or, Harlequin and the enchanted princess', (altered from 'King Sillyninny or Harlequin and the charmed half-guinea'), pantomime by F. G. Cheatham.  Licence sent 22 December 1862 for performance at the Pavilion. "

http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/manuscripts/HITS0001.ASP?VPath=arevhtml/78952.htm&Search=Add.+53018+D&Highlight=F

If you chase Francis's Family through the censii his youngest daughter Charlotte Louisa was a Professional Singer, and married a Musician/Conductor from Hull called Arthur Boocock.

[MonicaL]

With just movements around the parishes in London, thought you might want to see this parish map for London (1877) http://archivemaps.com/mapco/parish/parish.htm

St Mary's Battersea, for example is on the last row, 2nd box in from the left.

Monica 

[fallingonabruise]

Thanks for the map monica

would Benjamin Lloyd have been an attorney before becoming a magistrate ?
as theres records for this in
The New Complete Guide to All Persons Who Have Any Trade or Concern With the City of London and Parts Adjacent. 16th edn., 1783. London
according to Ancestry,
but if he was an attorney by 1781 would he be to old to have JBL ?

[fallingonabruise]

Benjamin thomas Lloyd   24 MAR 1805     St Mary, Rotherhithe, London, England
parents Benjamin and Elizabeth
poss brother ?

[MonicaL]

I've seen this Benjamin (b. Rotherhithe) in my trips up and down the censuses  He shows as a baker by trade in later years.

Monica

[ShaunJ]

A baker? Hmmm...reminded me of Jorose's earlier post re John Lloyd born St Clements Worcester 1807

The one b. 1807 St. Clements Worcester does seem to have lived; he is in the St. John Hill workhouse in 1871 (Wandsworth and Clapham Union, located in Battersea.  Aged 63, a baker, married.
(There is a John Lloyd, no middle name, d. 1877 aged 70 in Wandsworth district on freebmd)