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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #171 on: Monday 02 August 10 13:02 BST (UK) »
Some light reading:

www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/16517/pages/1696 - mention here of a Benjamin Lloyd, top of second column.

www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/18261/pages/1576  - first entry on the second column.

www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/19618/pages/1148 - on the second column, under John Herman Merivale, Commisioner (look who the Commissioner is above - our old fried Joshua Evan who JBL kept busy!)

    
http://www.rootschat.com/links/09d3/ - Marriage entry from Google Books for Joseph and Sophia

Bound to be lots more given the gene pool  ;D

Still no closer to details on JBL's father though....as yet!

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #172 on: Monday 02 August 10 15:40 BST (UK) »
well I've found 10 children for Joseph and Sophia, and made them a family tree.
Norwood cemetery is full of thier children/grandchildren !!

the mention of Benjamin in the same article about Joseph is exciting, maybe they are family ?
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #173 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 19:54 BST (UK) »
possible clue to JBL family !
On the met police thread barnabyp has kindly found me JBL in the joiners ledger, so he did actually join the police in 1836 for 40 days.
in the bit for who recommended them and thier address it says '
'B.Gray esq, Rec.Geu.Off. W.Fairclough esq, Customs'

whats rec geu off ?
is W.Fairclough family ? as he named 2 of his children 'fairclough'
hmmmmmmm ???
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #174 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 20:47 BST (UK) »
 :P Can't see anything for a W Fairclough, Customs on early censuses - assuming William?

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #175 on: Wednesday 15 September 10 10:01 BST (UK) »
I wonder if he met Lavinia through W.Fairclough ? as her dad was involved in Customs?
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #176 on: Wednesday 15 September 10 10:18 BST (UK) »
Could well have done. Have you had any luck on censuses for him? Re the use of the name Fairclough for JBL and Lavinia's children, maybe down to a close friendship with our Mr W Fairclough?

All guesses!

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #177 on: Wednesday 15 September 10 11:45 BST (UK) »
Have'nt done anything yet, lol, did a sleep over at work last night and out sorting the chucks this morn  ;D
so far theres this 'fairclough' thing
first child with Eliza, called John Fairclough Lloyd 1830
son of JLloyd , Norwood , william Fairclough Lloyd 1824
 reference by W. Fairclough 1836
JBL + Lavinias son , Grenville Fairclough Lloyd 1852'
must be an important name as he's used it twice?
could fairclough be his step father? as mother living with stepfather in 1825.
Benjamin lloyd, JBL's father could his  mother be a Fairclough ?as that would fit in with Joseph Lloyd being Ben's Brother.
Fairclough can't be his grandfather the magistrate ?

oh and just found WF.Lloyd death record and it say father Joseph L Lloyd
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #178 on: Sunday 03 October 10 22:12 BST (UK) »
thanks to huckleberry, extra info on JBL's baptism

Baptism: 31 May 1819 Christ Church, Hunter Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Ballard Lloyd - Son of Benjamin Lloyd & Elizabeth
    Born: 22 Dec 1807
    Abode: Circus St.
    Occupation: Mercht.
    Baptised by: T. Kidd Officiating Minst.
    Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1851, Page 24, Entry 188
    Source: LDS Film 1656153
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #179 on: Sunday 03 October 10 22:23 BST (UK) »
Hurray, we were on the right track! The connection we needed between the 1807 christening and the 1819 one in Liverpool. Any mention of sponsors on the Liverpool entry?

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