Lloyd London Mystery

[fallingonabruise]

Do you mean familial connection between John Ballard Lloyd and Walter Henry LLoyd?
there is , Walter is Johns son  and my great uncle 

[fallingonabruise]

Found more stuff !!!!!!!!!!!!
in the updated gales papers theres a long piece about JBL,
which sheds some light on the 2 baptism/christenings !
when com.Evans was asked if he was the godfather he said
''he was then about 8 or 9 yrs old (the prisoner now being 48 yr old), His father was a presbytarian and his mother wishing to have her child christened in the church of england, I consented, knowing the family, to stand godfather to him''

 it goes on with JBL talking about how poor they were, him, wife a 1mth old baby and 2 other children had to sleep on bare boards as the windows, doors and all there belongings had been taken  december 1855

[MonicaL]

Well that at least goes some way to explaining and linking the two baptisms we had (1807 in Worcester and 1819 in Liverpool) 

Sad details on Lavinia and children though 

Just as an aside - has the Gale site been updated from what you said?

Monica

[fallingonabruise]

That baby must have died as I dont have any record of one born in 1855, and it was 5mths after his 10 yr old son Fredrick died, plus one of the children must have been my great grandad Grenville who would have been 3yrs old .
The Gales newspapers has now got 'part 2' in the search, theres afew new Jbl ones including a long one with loads of quotes from the man himself !

[fallingonabruise]

UPDATE !
I have found yet another child of John Ballard Lloyd !!
John Fairclough Lloyd, born june 1830 in Mitcham, Surrey.
Poor little soul was baptised on the 9th July and buried on the 11th July 1830, aged 5 weeks.
this made me wonder about the Fairclough bit as he used it again 22 yrs later for my great grandads middle name, so I searched again and came up with a William Fairclough Lloyd born in 1824 in Norwood,
In 1825 JBL was living with his Uncle, Mr Lloyd from Norwood !!!!
(Williams father was Joseph Lloyd who married Sophia Eleanor Lyne in 1815)
is this a family connection ??
William ended up in tasmania by the way 

[MonicaL]

Hurray, new searching 

Searching on http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start for other children to Joseph Lloyd and wife Sophia also brings up:

Joseph Lewingdon Lloyd, born 18 Sep 1821 and chr. 28 Oct 1821 at INDEPENDENT,LOWER NORWOOD,SURREY,ENGLAND

Sarah Blanchard Lloyd, chr. ? 1823 at Lambeth (Non Conformist Record Indexes)

Perhaps this one, Henry Lyne (same parents) Chr. 1829 imn CRAYFORD, KENT, ENGLAND

Monica 

[MonicaL]

Potentially more children. I'll let you search so you can see the entries. Using the new family search site above, just search under 'advanced search' as for a marriage, ie. Joseph Lloyd and Sophia and a number more potential entries come up for children, including the marriage which you already have.

Monica

Added: Seven of the children's baptisms show on the Parish Registers giving Joseph's occupation as a Corn Factor/Merchant or Gentleman in the ones I have looked at.

[MonicaL]

Also see from the 1815 Parish marriage entry for Joseph and Sophia that he shows as widower, so age slightly older that implied by a first marriage in 1815, putting him closer in age likely to have a brother Benjamin?

One of the witnesses to marriage shows as Sophia Lloyd, another family name or an in-law I wonder?

Monica

[fallingonabruise]

Benjamin Smith Lloyd 1818 ! that fits in well !!!

I'd forgotten about  that new search, theres loads of kids popping up !
I'm going to make a testing tree on ancestry just to keep all the info together,
 exciting stuff !! thanks Monica !