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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #144 on: Saturday 26 September 09 07:01 BST (UK) »
not sure what it is you cant find in google books but if it is info regarding the will of James Collins snr then here's what I did  to find it

advanced search enter in the top search box the words Josiah Wilson Stamford Hill


The law Report should be the first one that shows


Wendy
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #145 on: Saturday 26 September 09 11:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks Wendy,
theres quite a few refrences to Josiah wilson, marring Amelia, having a daughter Fanny Amelia and a son.
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #146 on: Monday 26 October 09 20:18 GMT (UK) »
John Ballard Lloyd a native of Liverpool. In 1823 he was appointed a midshipman aboard the East India trade ship Castle Huntly, Captain Drummond, and entered on board of that vessel on January 17, 1824, and, having completed one voyage, he finally left that service on the 26 April 1825. Some time after he left the East India Company’s service, he went to reside with his mother and his stepfather, who then lived in Nelson Square; he afterwards resided some time with his uncle, a Mr Lloyd of Norwood; we afterwards find him residing near Whitechapel with a Mr Lloyd, perhaps the same uncle; we then find him a lodger at the Red or Golden Lion, Camberwell, as a private gentleman, and soon after we find him residing at Mitcham as a private gentleman; there in the year 1826 he got acquainted with Miss Eliza Vaughan, the only child of Mr George Vaughan, carrying a business as a baker and general shop keeper; he decoyed the daughter , then about sixteen years of age, from a stage coach, and after living with her about eight or nine months, was, about April, 1827, married to her at Cheme Church; some time after Mr Vaughan took a business in Battersea and after instructing Lloyd in the business at Mitcham he gave it up to Mr and Mrs Lloyd and went to reside in Battersea. In the year 1830, only about nine or ten months after he was put into the business at Mitcham, Lloyd failed , and went to live in Battersea with Mr Vaughan where he continued , as he states in his evidence, nearly five years: about June, 1833, his name was substituted on the shop at Battersea for the name of Vaughan, which till then had been on the shop; Lloyd then carried on the business at Battersea until October, 1835, when he gave up that business, and as he states in his evidence, took to the railroads, and went to live at County Terrace, New Kent Road, where he resided when he got into the employment of Richardson , to take assents and dissents of the proprietors on this line of railway. About the middle of April he says he went to live in Ligonier Street, a .....

The next page (31) seems to have moved on from this section. Not sure if the page order is out on the images and didn't have time to go through the other 53 pages! I did asearch by key words so not sure.

What does this word mean "he decoyed the daughter" other than the plain obvious. Except it was from a stagecoach.... ;D

Monica  :)

Added: de·coyed, de·coy·ing, de·coys: To lure or entrap by or as if by a decoy. Lordy, he kidnapped  her!

the next bit is ....

street the situation of which I have not been able to find,where he states he resided when

he went in the police force, which he did on the 16th April, where he continued only until

the 26th May,(bring a period of only 40 days),
when he quitted without notice; soon after he was engagedin setting up 'The single horse

safety carriage company', where he continued some time,but afterwards left that

establishment, and then went to live at 21 Wellington Terrace, near Waterloo Bridg, until

about september, when he , in company with another person, opened an office at no 42 Maiden

Lane, Covent Garden,as house agents, accountants and collectors of rent,and hiring servants;
there they paid one quarters rent,and,on the week preceding Lady-day last,sold off the goods and fixtures, and finally disapeared on the 19th March 1837.
After they were gone several persons called in Maiden lane expecting,as they said to recieve money, some of them having paid money to Lloyd under his promises of procuring situations. One young man says he had agreed to pay him (lloyd) 200l to procure him the situation of secretary to a cab company, which Lloyd pretended to be getting up in opposition to that which he had before estabished and the candidate for office states he actually paid him 50l in part of that suma little before he disapeared.
So much for the respectability of this useful witness.
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #147 on: Monday 26 October 09 20:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andria  :)

Did I miss all this  :P ?

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #148 on: Monday 26 October 09 22:03 GMT (UK) »
the husband bought me it as an early birthday present , I tried sending you a copy but my email won't do it, I'll get him to try later.

I wonder why he joined the police  :o
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #149 on: Monday 26 October 09 22:20 GMT (UK) »
I did laugh when I saw we can add 'police constable' to his ever growing list of occupations  ;D

Considerate and thought OH to feed your obsession with your early present for your birthday *happy returns* in case I miss it!

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #150 on: Monday 26 October 09 22:41 GMT (UK) »
I think his main occupation was 'wideboy'  ;D
Don't give the OH any credit for this, I told him I wanted it NOW !! ;D
as it was driving me mad !
my birthday is on the 29th so wasn't too early ;D

I'm sure I've seen something about police records on rootschat, I'd love to see JBLs paperwork , ;D
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #151 on: Monday 26 October 09 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Not sure about the paperwork, but a little from our favourite resource:

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/familyhistory/guide/trade/metpolice.htm

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #152 on: Monday 01 February 10 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Just a little update for those who care  ;D
I have found another child for JBL and Eliza Vaughan Nightingale
Henry Vaughan Lloyd born in 1836
plus thier marriage reg on 15 feb 1829, one witness is Hannah Nightingale(mother) the other is William ?,
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