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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 15:49 BST (UK) »
Here he is again with another wife, Jane Atherton (nee ?)

1891

Wigan RG12/3051 Folio 6 Page 5

Thomas Moss Head M 74 Farm Labourer Lancashire Pemberton
Jane do Wife M 49 Lancashire Pemberton
William do Son S 22 Coal Miner Lancashire Aspull
Joseph do Son S 20 Coal Miner Lancashire Aspull
James do Son S 18 Coal Miner Lancashire Aspull
Eliza do Daur S 16 Cotton Reeler Lancashire Aspull
Sarah do Daur S 14 Dress Maker Lancashire Aspull
John do Son S 16 Coal Miner Lancashire Pemberton
William do Son S 14 Coal Miner Lancashire Pemberton
Ellen do Daur S 10 Scholar Lancashire Skelmersdale
Ann do Daur S 7 Scholar Lancashire Ince

The last four listed children came with Jane. The others link back to the 1871 and 1881 census entries for Thomas and Esther. Jane can also been seen with her previous husband, Thomas Atherton, on the 1881 census living in Skelmersdale.

54 Lorne Street, Wigan

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 15:52 BST (UK) »
1901

Wigan RG13/3553 Folio 119 Pages 35/36

Thomas Moss Head M 84 Retired Engine Winder at Coal Pit ? Lancs Pemberton
Jane E do Wife M 55 Cotton Spinner Lancs Pemberton
John Atherton Son S 26 Labourer at Iron Works Lancs Pemberton
Ellen do Daur S 20 Nail Maker at Steel Works Lancs Skelmersdale
Annie do Daur S 18 Cotton Reeler Lancs Ince

54 Lorne Street, Wigan

His stated, former occupation seems to tie him back to the 1851 and 1861 census entries.

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 16:58 BST (UK) »
Yes St George's is still there.You can find a photo of it on matthewsramblers.homestead.com/WiganPhotos.html 

Also on the Wiganworld site in the 1869 directory for Aspull which would have covered Whelley it shows a Thomas Moss  ,grocer and beer seller.

I think possibly on the posts that there are two different Thomas Moss I may be wrong.

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Braithwaite,Roney,Hartley,Jackson,Reed, Cumberland /Westmorland .Livesey,Hartley,Taylor,Sefton,Harrison,Knowles,Lancashire.Bottomley,Schofield,Woodhouse ,Hobson ,Norcliffe  and Hartley West Yorkshire.Bottomley Dumfrieshire and Lanarkshire.Pinder ,Warwickshire.Kisby ,Cambridgeshire

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 21:23 BST (UK) »
Hello

The four marriages that we have mentioned above, for Thomas Moss are ...

1838 (3rd quarter) to Susannah Cartwright at All Saints, Wigan

1855 (3rd quarter) to Dorothy Fletcher at All Saints, Wigan

1868 (13th January) to Esther Mawdesley at St George, Wigan

1887 (4th quarter) to Jane Atherton at St Catherine, Wigan

If it were possible for someone in Wigan to check the registers for these marriages to ascertain if the same father is specified for Thomas on each occasion, it should help to determine if all the census entries refer to the same man or to more than one man.

A more expensive option would be to purchase some of the actual certificates. If the 1838 and the 1887 marriages have the same father for Thomas, then it is almost certain that those in between will be the same.

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 21:31 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much, everyone, for all your help. You've certainly given me plenty to work on.
I am really grateful.
Regards,
Margaret
Ellison/Rogers/Pilkington/Wood(s)Moss/Mawdsley/Keegin (Keegan,Keagan,Keegen)
Orange/Morrisroe/Webster/Hoole/Shaw/Hague/Herbert
Hurt/Turner/Dean

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 05 August 09 09:54 BST (UK) »
I've just realised that I am still missing the 1841 census (wife Susannah). If anyone could find it, it would be great.
Thanks again, Margaret
Ellison/Rogers/Pilkington/Wood(s)Moss/Mawdsley/Keegin (Keegan,Keagan,Keegen)
Orange/Morrisroe/Webster/Hoole/Shaw/Hague/Herbert
Hurt/Turner/Dean

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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 21:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Margaret,
I am certain I am researching the same family as yourself, via the children of Joe Moss and Agnes Keegan.  I am extremely confused by Thomas Moss and all of his marriages.  Can you help?  :) Cheers,
David

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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 28 April 19 11:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Margaret,
I am certain I am researching the same family as yourself, via the children of Joe Moss and Agnes Keegan.  I am extremely confused by Thomas Moss and all of his marriages.  Can you help?  :) Cheers,
David

Hi David,
I Haven't used this site for some time and only just seen your post.
What do you want to know? I'll try to help.
Regards,
Margaret
Ellison/Rogers/Pilkington/Wood(s)Moss/Mawdsley/Keegin (Keegan,Keagan,Keegen)
Orange/Morrisroe/Webster/Hoole/Shaw/Hague/Herbert
Hurt/Turner/Dean