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Could some SKS date this photograph for me please
« on: Sunday 02 August 09 13:53 BST (UK) »
Hi, my great Aunt died recently and my Mum has several of her old family photos, we know everyone in them apart from this lady and when asked, my Grandma said "Oh that's Aunt Wilhelmina nobody talked about her" which has left us all intrigued as I have done a lot of research on that side of the family and a Wilhelmina has never turned up so if someone would be able to give me an idea of when it was taken and/or how old she could possibly be I would be most grateful.



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I have never added a photo on here so I hope it comes out ok
Lincolnshire - Keightley   Randell/Randall, Clark(e), Brooks, Neave, Horton, Fidel, Wilson
Bedfordshire - Brown, James, Plowman
Suffolk - Smith (Fressingfield),Catchpole, Blo(o)mfield, Leftley, Vincent
Nottinghamshire - Fenton, Weightman, Laycock, Wilson
Norfolk - Claxton, Todd, Fiddaman,

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Re: Could some SKS date this photograph for me please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 August 09 14:43 BST (UK) »
I can see the photographer Arthur James was living on Ramsgate Louth in the 1881 and 1891 census returns.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: Could some SKS date this photograph for me please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 August 09 14:46 BST (UK) »
Do you know great minds think alike.

I was just having another look at the photo and I thought I wonder if I can find out where the photographer was and if the building is still there and then I got your reply!!  :D

Thanks jaywit (are you OTR with a slightly longer version of your name??)
Lincolnshire - Keightley   Randell/Randall, Clark(e), Brooks, Neave, Horton, Fidel, Wilson
Bedfordshire - Brown, James, Plowman
Suffolk - Smith (Fressingfield),Catchpole, Blo(o)mfield, Leftley, Vincent
Nottinghamshire - Fenton, Weightman, Laycock, Wilson
Norfolk - Claxton, Todd, Fiddaman,

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Re: Could some SKS date this photograph for me please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 August 09 14:56 BST (UK) »
Yes  ;D ;D

She is sitting on a velocipede.
This is what Wiki has to say about them,there is a picture of a similar one on the right hand side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocipede
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: Could some SKS date this photograph for me please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 August 09 15:04 BST (UK) »
You need some of the fashion experts, Paula is very good at fashion, but this suggests 1890's.

The mid 1890s introduced leg o'mutton sleeves, which grew in size each year until they disappeared in about 1896. During the same period of the mid '90s, skirts took on an A-line silhouette that was almost bell-like. The late 1890s returned to the tighter sleeves often with small puffs or ruffles capping the shoulder but fitted to the wrist. Skirts took on a trumpet shape, fitting more closely over the hip and flaring just above the knee. Corsets in the 1890s helped define the hourglass figure as immortalized by artist Charles Dana Gibson. In the very late 1890s the corset elongated, giving the women a slight S-curve silhouette that would be popular well into the Edwardian era.

Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: Could some SKS date this photograph for me please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 August 09 15:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks jaywit.

So if it is mid 1890's I would guess her age at somewhere between 25-35 (very roughly) so that would mean she born somewhere between 1860-1870ish, which would make her the age to be an aunt of my Grandma's Dad.  I wonder if she was an illegitimate daughter of someone which was why she was never spoken of, or if not what did she do that was so bad that she couldn't be spoken of but photos still kept of her?????????? hmmmm intriguing.
Lincolnshire - Keightley   Randell/Randall, Clark(e), Brooks, Neave, Horton, Fidel, Wilson
Bedfordshire - Brown, James, Plowman
Suffolk - Smith (Fressingfield),Catchpole, Blo(o)mfield, Leftley, Vincent
Nottinghamshire - Fenton, Weightman, Laycock, Wilson
Norfolk - Claxton, Todd, Fiddaman,

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Re: Could some SKS date this photograph for me please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 August 09 16:04 BST (UK) »
Hello SBW
I would go along with late 1890's,although this Gigot sleeve lost favour around 1897 it was still seen as late as 1900.
The lady is single & about 30 I would suggest.Great photo.

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Re: Could some SKS date this photograph for me please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 August 09 16:18 BST (UK) »
SBW have a look OTR
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: Could some SKS date this photograph for me please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 August 09 23:14 BST (UK) »
Sorry to sound dim but is Louth the placename?
Martin London / Dodd Essex, East Indies/ Cantan Pembroke, Maidstone)