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John Swift
« on: Saturday 01 August 09 23:22 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Can anyone find a parish record and any info on John Swift born abt1805 Andover? Have been trying to find his birth record for ages now!

he later moved to bath and married margaret jones

any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

all the best

scott

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Re: John Swift
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 August 09 23:58 BST (UK) »
Are you sure that he was born there, does he appear on any census which gives it as Andover  ???

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Re: John Swift
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 August 09 00:30 BST (UK) »
The  1851 and 1861  census say he is born in andover abt 1805-6, on these census he is living in somerset, bath, in lyncombe and widcombe, sorry i didnt clarify this on my initial post. Any Suggestions???

Thanks for you time and help,

all the best

scott
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Re: John Swift
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 August 09 16:19 BST (UK) »
I've had a good look through the IGI but cant find anything, both census do confirm that he was born Andover circa 1805.

Just looking for any Swifts any dates born in Andover, it would seem that this is a very uncommon name for that area, I only found a Henry c. 1500 and an Eliza b 22.11.1820 parents James and Mary.

This is a very useful site for Hampshire  http://www.knightroots.co.uk/

I looked at the parish records for St. Marys Andover  baptisms 1746 - 1783 and did not find one Swift, neither in the marriages 1747 - 1769  :(

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Re: John Swift
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 August 09 16:41 BST (UK) »
Do you have his marriage cert to Margaret Jones, it would help if we could find his fathers name. :)

I cannot find it on the IGI or free bmd

There is no sign of any John Swift born Hampshire on the 1841 either.

According to the first census  which is all we have to go on, in   1851 his first child is born around 1837, if he was born c. 1805 that would make him almost 40 when he married, I am wondering if he was perhaps a mariner in earlier life with the Hampshire connection. ???

Also is could be that he might have thought he was born in Andover but wasn't  ???

The probabilities are endless really.  We need to find his fathers name and occupation .
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Re: John Swift
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 August 09 18:17 BST (UK) »
There is a baptism for John Swift in Andover 4th March 1807 (born 8th Feb) - parents James & Elizabeth
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: John Swift
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 August 09 18:35 BST (UK) »
Hi once again patrish thanks for your time and help, and thanks to you bearkat.

Patrish as you say the possibilities are endless and that is why it has taken me so long to make progress on him. You have confirm the results from my search as i couldnt find anything and also found that swift was not a common name there. I have not found a marriage certificate yet, would there be one as his frist child would be abt 1837 which is about the start of the certificates registration?? May have just been before hence why i have not found a certificate as yet.

I have not found him on the 1841 either but do remember finding a john swift on the 1841 census serving as a soldier in portsmouth. However i think the date of birth was slightly different.

Bearkat thanks for your help, could you tell me where you found the record for this entry.

Thanks for your help and time

all the best

scott
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Re: John Swift
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 August 09 20:14 BST (UK) »
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There is a baptism for John Swift in Andover 4th March 1807 (born 8th Feb) - parents James & Elizabeth

Can you tell me also please Bearkat. :)....I was searching for hours today and couldent find anything  ???

What a co -incidence 8th Feb is my birthday  also  ;D
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Re: John Swift
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 August 09 21:09 BST (UK) »
thanks for all your help

cheer
scott
Rogers, Swift, Gane, Shellard, Gardner, Fisher, Jones, Wiltshire, Staples, Childs, Drinkwater, Oakley, Holms, Bainton, Ludlow, Tapper, Clark, Hall, Tulliett(Tuttiett), Hiscox, Gordon, King, Mannings (mannams), Hobbs, Grist