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Re: Brindle Workhouse
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 December 10 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
The Brindle Workhouse closed the year after the 1871 Census, Christmas 1872, so if he was still there then, he probably was transferred to the, then new, Eaves Lane workhouse in Chorley, where all the inmates moved to.  It may be worth looking with that address for a death record and/or in a later Census - 1881 etc. as they may say more than just Ireland.
From my own researches on other things I know it's almost impossible to trace births etc. in Ireland unless you have some sort of locality to go on. (As most central records were destroyed in the 'troubles' - though the local copies are still in the parishes.)  The Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society have an Irish Branch that are very well informed and helpful.  They even have their own library.  See their website http://www.lfhhs.org.uk/irish/index.htm
Failing that, best I can suggest, if you haven't already tried is to look at the scan of the actual census return rather than the transcript.  Sometimes there's more detail on the form itself - I'll check my copy and get back to you if there is more than Ireland mentioned.  Only other thing I can think of might be to ask at the nearest Catholic Church if they've any record - St Joseph's Benedictine 'Mission', http://www.brindlestjosephs.org.uk/  I know they dealt with the workhouse catholic inmates.

Sorry couldn't be more definite, hope this helps,
Bernard

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Re: Brindle Workhouse
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 December 10 20:07 GMT (UK) »
I am very grateful for your reply. Unfortunately, as I discovered earlier to-night, I have been "barking up the wrong tree" - this Hugh Brennan is not the one I was looking for, just the only one I could find about the right age, even though the name spelling was incorrect.

Basically, the Hugh Brannen I was looking for turned up living in Mossley in 1871 (which is where the whole family were based). I had not found him on Ancestry owing to errors in the transcription - Ancestry had his age as 87 whereas he was 67 (the age is quite clear on the census record itself) and his name was shown as Branam, hence all the difficulty in tracking him down. To make matters worse he was living with one of his daughters, husband and children and their surname was different to his.

Anyway all is well now, although his grandfather was from Ireland, so the Irish investigation will have to start soon - I'm just trying to identify a location in Ireland otherwise, as you say, it's difficult to progress.

Thanks again for the information.

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Re: Brindle Workhouse
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 14 December 10 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Glad you've got things sorted out.  best of luck with the Irish connection.
Bernard

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Re: Brindle Workhouse
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 April 13 22:40 BST (UK) »
Hello Bernard

Enjoyed your thought-provoking talk at UClan in February, and so was pleased to find a link to Brindle Workhouse when trying to solve some of the many mysteries surrounding my 3g-grandmother, Betty Marsden. I know her to have had at least seven illegitimate children but there may well have been others. Her known children were baptised at a variety of places (two at Rivington, two at Chorley, one at Horwich Chapel Independent, and no baptisms have been found yet for two other children.  I've just found the baptism of a Thomas Marsden in 1811 born at Brindle Workhouse:

Baptism: 13 Jan 1811 St James, Brindle, Lancashire, England
Thos. Marsden - Son of Betty Marsden
    Abode - Brindle workhouse
    Baptisms 1789 - 1812, Page 87, Entry 4 - LDS Film 1849648
   
I'm wondering if this could be "my" Betty (allegedly born Anderton, Lancs, c 1785), and whether there is anything in Brindle Workhouse records about this mother and her son. If you have time I'd be very grateful if you could let me know.


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Re: Brindle Workhouse
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 11 April 13 18:17 BST (UK) »
Hello Mary and welcome to Rootschat,

Bernard hasn't been online here since 2010 but hopefully will receive an email notification that you have posted on this thread.

Otherwise it might be worth trying to contact him via UCLan:

http://www.uclan.ac.uk/schools/forensic_investigative/archaeology_research_workhouse.php

Jean
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)

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Re: Brindle Workhouse
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 11 April 13 18:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Mary and welcome to Rootschat,

Bernard hasn't been online here since 2010

Jean

Many thanks for letting me know, Jean