john sudbury,leatherseller.

[pipz]

I am trying to find the connection between John Sudbury, leatherseller of London to the Sudbury family in Egmanton, Notts. He founded a charity in Egmanton so there must be a family relationship.He was also a printer in partenership with his nephew George Humble. Dooes anyone know of anything in the London archives which would give the answer.

  Pipz.

[CaroleW]

Can you give some details of what years are involved.  It is difficult to offer advice without  more specific info

Where was John Sudbury born and when

Which Sudbury family in Notts - names etc

[pipz]

I don't have a date of birth for john, his will was 1620 and he died shortly after, he had 4 children that I know of, john,joseph,james and elizabeth. I have this from his will. The family in Egmanton was there in the 1500s I think and disappeared in the late 1800s although there are relatives left such as me. I have the will of christopher, a goldsmith of London who added to the charity and had family in the village. A brother francis,sisters mary and sarah, wife mary nee bayley.His father was poss.thomas, he had children mary,edward poss. alison. His will is dated 1669. Edward had a son seth who had a son samuel. He had a son edward and his daughter mary was my 3x gt. grandmother b. 1788. Maybe john's father/brothers moved to the village but i think that the answers are in London. (if you can follow this !! )

      Pipz

[b5myk]

I am trying to find the connection between John Sudbury, leatherseller of London to the Sudbury family in Egmanton, Notts. He founded a charity in Egmanton so there must be a family relationship.He was also a printer in partenership with his nephew George Humble. Dooes anyone know of anything in the London archives which would give the answer.

  Pipz.

Hi pipz, My Grandfather`s name was Noel Sudbury Wardell, of Egmanton. I`m trying to find a
link between Sudbury and Wardell, any Ideas. Thanks.... Mick

[pipz]

Well hello Mick,
I don't know an awful lot about the Wardells.

Mary Wardell 1798 was md. to my 3xgt.gdmother's brother Samuel Sudbury. I have quite a big tree which takes in the names Sudbury/Ward/Truswell/ Appleby/Gale/Laughton. Sudbury /Wardell and Gale are common middle names through the family. I've only really got the Wardell family on the census returns for Egmanton.I do have a list of names I've come acroos but have no idea how they fit together. I have Noel as being the son of John Richard and Esther.
The Sudbury's are an interesting family and I have quite a lot about Samuel Sudbury/Mary Wardell's family.
  Pipz.

[b5myk]

Hello Jenny,

Thanks for the reply to my post. I have tried to email you on your yahoo.co.uk
but it gets returned.
The Noel Wardell you mention is my Grandfather, he had two daughters, Lily Winifred (85 years old, my Mother) and Lorna (89 years old, my Aunt) both are still fit-ish and well. Noel was the yongest of four sons, the others being John, William and George. Their father was John Richard Wardell, one of seven children. My mother has been puzzled as to where Noel`s middle name of Sudbury comes from. I am in South Africa at the moment, but when I get back I will show her your reply.

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[Jalo]

Hi Pipz, I have the Sudbury's line back to a John Sudbury (b. abt 1520 in Whitechapels, London). His line was John (b. abt 1550), Christopher (b. abt 1574), Christopher (b. abt 1610), Edward (b. abt 1640 in Egmanton), Seth (b. 10/3/1666) m. Ann Herrat, Samuel (b. abt 1709) m. Mary Truswell, Mary Sudbury (b. abt 1757) m. Samuel Appleby (b. 1748).
I'm not certain of the source data, and as you can see some of the dates are approximate, however may help provide a link between London and Egmanton.
I am trying to trace the Appleby line in Egmanton back from Samuel Appleby (b.1748 Egmanton) m. Mary Sudbury. his father was Samuel Appleby who died 1777. Would you have any more details on the Appleby family and in particular Samuel's ancestors.

Many thanks

Jim

[pipz]

Hi, thanks for your reply. I have quite a bit of the Sudbury tree.Some of the info. on familysearch.org is innacurate. I can't find proof for John having a son Christopher. Christopher, goldsmith names Thomas as his father in his will. I have three or four Sudbury wills. I have a tree for the Applebys, I don't know if it goes back far enough for you. I will send you a personal message.

    Pipz.