Desford burial, 1811 - UPTON thread!

[chelbeedee]

My Great, Great, Great Grandfather was the William Drakeley who arrived in Philadelphia on the Ship London with his wife, Jane.  Their son, Thomas Drakeley married Caroline Aspell.  They were my Great, Great Granparents.  Their daughter, Genevieve, was my Great Grandmother.  She had a sister named Laura and a brother named William.  The Thomases and the Williams seem to be numerous in the family, which leads to some confusion, especially when cousins of the same name are also close in age.

I gather that I also share an Upton ancestor.  Am I correct that the brothers who came to the US on the London were maternal cousins to Henry Upton?

[Annie65115]

Sorry, I can't answer re the Drakelys but I do have another couple of scraps re the Uptons in Desford.

From the Desford PR (all burials):

Rebecca Upton Jun 28 1816 (which we knew), wife of John Upton Jnr

-- I'm 95% certain that it says "jnr". Now I can't see any John Uptons who were alive and who were the son of another John Upton. So maybe that simply refers to the fact that there were 2 men of the same surname in the village and she was married to the younger of them.
This date of death does rule out her widower marrying any of the other candidates except Ann Fradsham.

buried 30 Jan 1825, John Upton, FWK age 65
- this would tie in with John b 1760, youngest son of the centenarian John

Jane Upton, widdow age 73 - June 7, 1833 - this was presumably Jane nee Flabel who I think married the above mentioned John

Mary, wife of John Upton, shopkeeper, age 59 -- Dec 22 1839 -- my money would be on this being Mary Jarvis; her husband John was listed as a widow in 1841, living in Ravenstone; his offspring were bakers, grocers, maltsters, which would fit with "shopkeeper".

Not sure if this gets us much further though!

[Annie65115]

And a few more burials of possible interest to people on this thread:

William Upton age 68, FWK, May 23 1839   (I think this will be the William who married Ann Archer)

Ann age 76, July 10 1844  --- probably Ann Archer

James, son of John and Rebecca - Jan 27 1829 - I have no baptism notes for him

[Annie65115]

A quickie re William Drakely/Elizabeth Upton:

found an index card in the Poor Law cabinet at the Leic Records office:

UPTON Eliz 1814 of Markfield (now residing in Desford) Wm Drakely, jnr, of Desford, farmer, is the reputed father of her expected child

So Elizabeth was from Markfield -- so maybe NOT William Upton/Ann Archer's daughter!

[NicolaPicken]

Have no idea if this is even relevant, but doing my family tree and have a marriage of an Elizabeth Upton (born 1795) who married Richard Picken in 1825?

[NicolaPicken]

I did not have any information from the John Upton will and see he did not mention a son Henry, although Henry came to Philadelphia in 1847.

1814    May    22    William Drakeley,batchelor. FK   Elizabeth Upton** spinster. FK   Banns Desford wit: Ann Plant. William Maides.

**I think she is the Elizabeth Upton born 23 Nov 1795 to William & Anne Archer Upton.

[Annie65115]

The plot has been thickening re my John Upton - the one who m Ann Fradsham and whose tombstone is in the pictures shown earlier in this thread.

He is described as FWK or stocking maker until the 1861 census when he is described as "independent". I think I have identified his house in Desford, and whilst not manorial, it was a lot bigger than his brother's, with access to the side so a cart could get round the back. It almost certainly had the long FWK windows (now converted to modern smaller windows) on the ground floor, and may have been a small factory rather than simply a family home (not dissimilar in size to the FWK museam at Wigston - room for several machines inside).

And he left several properties in his will!

So how did he get his money at a time when many FWKers were literally starving?

Well - I also found mention of his brother in law, George Windram (also the executor of his will) avoiding giving evidence at an enquiry into election fraud by fleeing the country! So were there dodgy dealings afoot? Who knows?  - I wish I did!

[Ottawa_John]

Hi,
Are we dealing with Thomas married to Elizabeth Holt? As I believe I am decended from a daughter called Elizabeth Upton, married to a Simon Richards.

Nice one, Anastarr - I've seen the copy of the Desford records but it's good to see them again!

John is/was my 7x gt grandfather, again through his son Thomas and then Thomas's son William.

[Annie65115]

Yes, Thomas Upton m Elizabeth Holt 1769 - children William, Elizabeth, Thomas, John, Mary (plus any others that people may have found!)

I haven't got any details about their daughter Elizabeth, other than a birth date around 1771. PLease tell us more!