MUNN Family (Luton)

[suzard]

Official registration for BMD's was introduced Sept 1837
However it was not compulsory in the beginning

many registered but some didn't

pre 1837 you need to look at Church records(baptism, marriage , burial, parish records, locate wills, newspaper reports, etc
Sometimes baptisms didn't take place until a few months'years after birth-sometimes more than 1 child would be baptised at the same time - although many were baptised within a month of birth . So you have to be careful you don't mistake some of the children as twins/triplets
Sometimes the baptism date is the nearest you will get - I have one who is described as "born Spring -baptised the day the first stone of the chapel was laid" -so then it leads to local history !!
The IGI is quite a good source - not all areas are transcribed yet, and you have to treat "member submitted" with caution. Some are OK -others no more than a guess
"Extracted " records are more reliable -but even those are (like most records) sometimes mistranscribed.

I would be interested to hear what documents you have for William Nottingham 1804-1882. The only death reg's I can find for William Nottingham in 1882 -don't give approx year of birth as 1804???

Death certificates are not always correct -the ages are what the informant gave

Where was William born - he may be on IGI

I know you say you are not fussed on siblings -but they can be useful in finding you have the correct person

eg say you found fred bloggs b c.1800 in leicester -and you need to find his birth/baptism on IGI
there may be 10 fred Bloggs c.1800
5 of them may be born leics
but if you have details of siblings you can then check to see which fredBloggs is baptised to the same parents as his known siblings

Hope this helps - you are doing well to be so sensilbe at the beginning of your research

Suz

[suzard]

Lovely photographs

I'll have a look for you

Suz

[smunn02]

William Nottingham (abt 1804- mar 1882); looking through the absolute forest load of papers spread out across my living room...the documents I have that directly refer to him are:

Marriage to Mary Lee info, 1 jan 1837

1861 census (rough age, exact address 104 Warden Lane, Old Warden + occupation Ag.labourer)
1871 census (same as above)
Death info mar quarter 1882



Looking at it I could add more - I notice 1881 is missing, and pre 61. I thought that lot was okay to class him as a fairly well documented person, I was quite pleased as an amateur attempt =)


As for where he was born -I'm putting it down as a fairly safe assumption that it was Old Warden, Bedfordshire, England since his father John married Elizabeth Searle on 17 Apr 1797 in Old Warden, and he died in June 1819 in Old Warden. It's conceiveable though that William may not have been born there.

[smunn02]

Updated GEDCOM avaliable:


You may notice very tentative stretches back to the 15-somethings. Don't take those too seriously since I'm unable to find barely any documentation and a lot of it seems to hinge on two people changing their name, or forgetting how to spell it. I'm only really keeping it there since there's nobody to replace them, and I'm happy to assume it's wrong unless someone gives me some proof =)

[suzard]

Hi -a few little comments
William Nottingham in 1861 -address is just Warden lane -no number - in early census -especially in rural areas it is unusual to have a house number -sometinmes not even a road
No 104 is a census reference no - the schedule no - which is always in 1st column -if the house had a number it would be in the 2nd column with the road name

I haven't found William and mary pre 1861 -or son John?
maybe they are mistranscribed

James Nottingham is pretty consistent with his d.o.b. and p.o.b. until 1891/1901 1891 p.o.b. Southill, 1901 b1934 Northill
1911 he is back to being b Haynes

he can be found on 1911 census - you need to buy credits to access fully
We are not allowed (copyright issues) to post transcripts of 1911 census
Index is free to view and James Nottingham is age 79 widower B haynes living Caldecote with daughter jane and her husband and children-don't think they are living in the pub??

1841 I think james is a field Worker -not watcher!!!!
1861 Horsekeeper(farmer)
1871 Laourer - but he is living in P.H. - probably Elizabth ran it
1881 Beerhousekeeper and farmer 60 acres (no name of pub - but it seems you know which one it was )
1891 Rose & Crown Publican and gardener
1901 Rose& Crown Innkeeper and market gardener
1911-no occ given

Hope this helps

Suz

[smunn02]

Suzard that's excellent, thank you!  Yeah we know the name of the pub as there are some historical records for the pub which happen to give the name of the publican + also photo =) 

Some great info there that I've been able to tidy James up with a bit, also gives Elizabeth a little bit more too =)


I can give you a little info regarding William's son John however from parish + suchlike records - most interesting bit I've found is that in in 1871 at age 21 he is living with + servant to The Hon. George Henley Ongley who owned land in the churchyard in the parish of Eversholt, possibly descended (bastard son who was paid off from what I can piece together, he's not in Debretts and so on) from Robert Henley-Ongley, 1st Baron Ongley of Old Warden.

Mary Lee I have on the 1861 census as a Lacemaker living in Old Warden, age 53. I can't find her on any others though, the only other info of hers I have is a source for her birth in Blunham April 1808 (rumoured 21st aprl but unsourced) and an unsourced death in sept 1860.

[Woody32]

For someone just doing this research for one day ...you know a lot !!!

I started researching my family tree yesterday and had a LOT of luck, managing to pin down one part of the tree as far back as the 1620's (where we were still in bedfordshire,

[smunn02]

Hehe well thank you  
A lot of the family is helping too - my mum keeps phoning with things, and my brother is doing his dads side entirely by himself.  We spent half yesterday going round the graveyards to find relatives. I think it helps that nobody's moved from Bedfordshire!

Plus of course some great info from people here!  I'm absolutely fascinated with it; especially James + Elizabeth. I'm thinking of having their pictures framed!

[suzard]

Mary Lee I have on the 1861 census as a Lacemaker living in Old Warden, age 53. I can't find her on any others though, the only other info of hers I have is a source for her birth in Blunham April 1808 (rumoured 21st aprl but unsourced) and an unsourced death in sept 1860.

if mary is on 1861 census -then her death wouldn't have been in 1860!!!!!!

Suz