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Re: decipher of given names
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 14:13 BST (UK) »
Does it look like it could be this family? Although no Ann.

1841 census:

Union Place, Stepney, Mile End Old Town, Lower, Tower Hamlets
Thomas [transcribed on findmypast as CARN] 45 cordwainer
Mary 40
William 15 shoemaker app[rentice]
Elizabeth 15
James 10
Mary 10
John 5
George 5
Henry 2
Robert 1 mo

HO107 piece 713 fol 4/13 page 19

Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: decipher of given names
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 14:29 BST (UK) »
Do you know the forename of the other witness? It's a pity there is not another capital T anywhere to compare. But I can see the h & o & a tall s if the first letter is capital T. There is a capital H on the registrar's name - Harrison - although this looks written by a different person to the rest of the certificate. 
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: decipher of given names
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 14:36 BST (UK) »
I think I have answered my own question!!! Looks like the witness was William's mother Hannah.

I found the Rice family in 1841 in Dalgleish St Limehouse [as I am sure you have]:

William 45 Blacksmith
Hannah 45 Ind
William 15 cabinet maker
Jane 13
none of them born in county

HO 107/701/7/16

So the forename of the other witness does not begin with H. FWIW I go with Thos.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: decipher of given names
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 18:31 BST (UK) »
Could it, with any stretch of the imagination, be 'Ricd.' - abbreviation for 'Richard'?

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Re: decipher of given names
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 20:01 BST (UK) »
There is another CARR family at HO107/716-13/59/30 Is Whitechapel near Stepney?
Thomas CARR 53 Bootmaker (NOT Middx)
Jane 51
Ann 22
Matilda 13
Mary 10
John RENNY 19 Jman Carpenter
Fred REDFORD 16 Appr
Eliza MICHELL 12
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Re: decipher of given names
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 July 09 11:10 BST (UK) »
Hello to you all

Thank you all for taking the time to look at my posting, I have found the Rice family with Hannah. also the other family Thomas & Jane.Carr.  Have looked until I have square eye's,   I thought it could be Herb,  I suppose it could be a middle name or just a name to which he was known, any thoughts on this one?.

The 1841 census with Thomas and Mary is a good possibility as Ann could be living away from home and in service. Thomas being a cordwainer which is a Bootmaker.

Will look on the early  Census to see names of bootmakers with surname Carr.

I also found on IGI an Ann Carr parents Bengamin & Elizabeth