Margaret Williams, Middlesbrough

[alllegs]

I've just found this..................

William Charles Williams, born 1872, St Erth, Praze, Cornwall
He married Elizabeth Ann Norman on 05 JUL 1893   Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England.

This is him with his parents from the 1881

Charles WILLIAMS   Head   M   Male   35   St Earth Praze, Cornwall, England   Iron Miner     
 Mary WILLIAMS   Wife   M   Female   32   Hayle, Cornwall, England       
 Mary Ann WILLIAMS   Daur   U   Female   13   St Earth Praze, Cornwall, England   Scholar     
 Thomas Hy. WILLIAMS   Son      Male   11   Camborne, Cornwall, England   Scholar     
 William C. WILLIAMS   Son      Male   9   St Earth Praze, Cornwall, England   Scholar     
 Samuel J. WILLIAMS   Son      Male   2   Normanby, York, England     

They had obviously moved 'up north' before Samuel was born, could this be my William Williams??  I'm not sure how to find out if he had a daughter called Margaret though....?

Another shot in the dark but I guess its worth a go....

Love
Legs
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[coffers]

Ok with that find; Samuel was born in Normanby, that would probably place these Williams in the Guisborough registration district. The Tees Valley Indexes has:

born 1897 MARGARET I R-S-043-0-0379 Guisborough.

Did you eliminate this Margaret from your possibilities? I know it was in my earlier list but you said that only one Margaret was outstanding, so I'm probably flogging a dead horse. 

Another thought; three people called William Williams, died in the Teesside area between 1896 and the end of 1900, that would mean William would not appear on the 1901 census for the area. It's a possibility that Margaret was being looked after by other family members, but that opens another can of worms.

I dread to put down the possibilities opened up by the Steel/Williams confusion that has been mentioned.

Maybe with luck the Hartlepool Margaret will come up trumps.

[alllegs]

Hi again,

Ok the Hartlepool Margaret does have a father called William Williams, but I still don't know if its the right one or not.  The Guisborough Margaret does not have a father called William

What now??  Any suggestions welcome!!

Thanks
love
Legs
xxxx

[coffers]

If this isn't your Margaret WIlliams, then you are going to have to open up your search to everywhere else really.

If I was in your shoes I'd be very tempted to accept this as my line and purchase the birth certificate. Of course because you have some doubts, you would have to mark the link unproven, until you can satisfy yourself that the link is, or isn't, part of your line. Once you have the birth certificate you will know the name of margarets mother. This might help to locate them on the 1901 census an give you some further proof.

As I said before Hartlepool isn't that far away from Middlesbrough,  the only doubt now is the age at marriage, which could have been a little lie anyway.

[sillgen]

Just to check but is it a hand written certificate that says William Williams or a copy of the actual register?    If it is the former it might be worth ringing the office to check they got it right.   Human error can cause confusion!
Andrea

[coffers]

Andrea,

I don't think Legs has got a copy of Margarets birth certificate. Alll she has at the moment is confirmation from the Hartlepool Registrar, that the Margaret Williams who she has enquired about, does have her father named as William Williams. She won't be able to get any more details without purchasing the certificate concerned.

Mike.

[sillgen]

Ah, but if you go back to the beginning of this very long saga she does have a marriage certificate giving the father as William Williams!
Andrea

[coffers]

Sorry, I thought you were referring about the birth certficate.

[alllegs]

Hi all,

Yes the marriage cert I have is a copy of the original, I have emailed the local office to double check the details and will get back to you asap!

Thanks
love
Legs
xxxx