Margaret Williams, Middlesbrough

[AMW]

hi legs
i will check again nex wed for june 1927,
the volume and page no is only required if applying for a cert
from GRO,its not even of use at a local register office.
A monumental inscription book lists what was written on tombstones in the graveyard,sometimes they are indexed in surname sometimes not.
if you look on the tees valley site "index content"  its the 3rd  one down it lists what they have on record(not fully complete yet) .
i will let you know next wed.
see ya
AMW

[AMW]

hi legs
found something!
it was not in the june,may or apr,so i checked the St Cath index,
it was registered in sept qtr 1927, so i started again from july onwards,finally found on Friday 19th August !

Hubbard (nee Steel) Margaret,Dearly beloved wife of Edward Hubbard,cortege leaves 24 Chester St,Cargo Fleet,1.30pm Saturday for Eston Cemetry.Deeply mourned.

i carried on till 2nd Sep for a possible "with Thanks" but nothing ,and i also checked 1928 and 1929 in the "In Memoriam" section but again nothing.
dont know wether the above as been any help? but a couple of things i noticed was no date of actual death stated i guessed it must have been wed or thur of that week?
there living at 24 not 22? , i was also looking for myself later on today at the Kellys Directory which is old version of Yellow Pages for 1930-1931 and 1934-1935 ,different people were living at 24 Chester st,so presumably they left that address within 3 yrs of her death? for reference Cargo Fleet is not  in  North Ormesby,its about 1.5 miles from M,bro centre,Eston Cem is 2 miles from m,bro centre
hope this as helped?

bye
AMW

[alllegs]

Thank you so much AMW,

Now I am completely confused though, I have Edward and Margaret's marriage certificate and Margaret's maiden name was Williams, this also correlates with what my grandma knew.  But what you found states that her maiden name was Steel - could that have been a mistake or an alias or was she married previously??  I'm very confused again!

Thats also strange about the address, the marriage certificate says they lived at 22, maybe they prefered the house next door?!
Cargo Fleet ties in well though as my gran was actually born there in 1927.

Do you know what kind of state Eston Cem is in??  I might drag my dad on a road trip to come and look for Margaret's grave stone - do you think its worth in?

Thank you once again
Love
Legs
xxxxx

[AMW]

hi legs
she might have been married before, hope ive not put a spanner in the works!?
Eston Cem is large,without a grave number could be like a needle in a haystack? i wouldnt attempt it!
Somebody on this site has some monumental inscriptions for Eston
i cant remember his name try a post request , i  think is name was Mike Guess ?
best of luck
AMW

[alllegs]

No, no, no spanners yet!!

I though she may have been married before as well, but the marriege cert I have for Margaret and Edward says she was a spinster and her father was William Williams - - - hmmmmmmmmmm - - - - not sure.

I'll put a post up for Eston Cem and see what happens, thanks for doing all you've done, all the info is fab

Take care
love
Legs
xxxx

[coffers]

Hi alllegs,

The is an entry in Tees Vally Indexes for a Margaret E Steel born in 1896. Link:

http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/search.php?table=births&last_name=steel&first_name=margaret&year=1896&span=2

One possible explanation, which I have had on one or two of my lines is that; Margaret was born out of Wedlock and took her mother's surname at birth. Maybe later William Williams married her mother and she took his name. Or her father was known anyway and she took his name later.

It's certainly going to be a bit of a puzzle to sort out. I've tried searching the online 1901 census, there is a record of a Margaret Steel (aged 5) in Middlesbrough, but no Margaret Williams. The link to try the search for yourself is http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

You will get a list of hits for your search criteria but you will have to pay to see a copy of the image of the page she appears on.

Regards,
Mike

[sillgen]

Hi
I thought I would join in this one as I was born in Middlesbrough and have lots of ancestors from there too.
The Margaret Steel aged 5 in 1901 is the daughter of John 35 and Mary Ann 29 of 32 Argyle St.   She was born M'bro but her mother and brothers (Matthew 10 and James 8)were b Bishop Auckland.  Her father was a car planer county of birth not known - Kirkconselt??  ref 4578 F12
Andrea
PS People frequently moved to another house in the same street - they were all renting so if a nicer one came up (or a cheaper one) they moved.

[coffers]

That probably rules out Margeret Steel then.

What about these found on Tees Valley Indexes?

Search Results for 1897 +/- 2 years
Search births - results for MARGARET WILLIAMS 1895 to 1899

Result Year Forename Initial Ref Number Click to contact
1 1895 MARGARET A M-J-102-0-0316 Middlesbrough
2 1896 MARGARET  S-N-155-0-0132 Stockton-on-Tees
3 1897 MARGARET I R-S-043-0-0379 Guisborough
4 1897 MARGARET  M-J-114-0-0375 Middlesbrough
5 1899 MARGARET  M-J-122-0-0439 Middlesbrough
6 1897 MARGARET  H-A-149-0-406 Hartlepool

Link = http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/search.php?table=births&last_name=williams&first_name=margaret&year=1897&span=2

There are a couple of possibilities for Margaret Williams on that list. The one born in 1895 could be promising, particularly as her birth was registered in the last quarter of the year.

FreeBMD gives the following:

Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page 
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Births Dec 1895
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 Williams  Margaret Ann    Middlesbro'  9d 514

[coffers]

Just found a 5 year old Margaret Williams on the 1901 census too. for the search use her name, age 5 +/- 1 year, for the place of birth type: yorks.

That gives 2 hits. One for Middlesbrough (aged 5), another in Eston (aged 4).

I couldn't find her before because I typed in Middlesbrough under place of birth, but it's actually listed as Middlesbro