Thomas Parish, Brandon Colliery - *Completed *

[Gadget]

Hi

I've been re-reading  my great Grandfather's diary of 1900 and have come across this address:

Thomas Parish
18 Cobden Terrace
Brandon Colliery
Durham

I believe this is one of my great Grandmother's relatives as her mother was a Caroline Par(r)ish. He would be likely to have been born Chirk, Denbighshire*, Wales (or any combination !), possibly 1850s/1860s. He would have been a coal miner. Thomas was a family name amongst this line and I'd like to find which one he was.

I've checked the 1901 for both England and Wales and deaths but can't find a likely candidate. Have I missed something?

The only Par(r)ish b. Chirk that I can find in the 1901 in Co. Durham is:

John Street, Eldon, Auckland St Andrew, Durham
RG13/4645/140/31
Parrish
James, 48, coal miner (Hewer) b. Wales, Chirk
Hannah, wife, 42, b. Cheshire, Macclesfield
Sam, 24, coal miner (hewer), Lancashire, Failsworth Lane, Manchester
Hannah, 12, b. Durham, Eldon
Thelia, 9, b. -do-
Rosa, 3, b. Lancashire, Moston, Manchester

Probably relatives of mine as well - and will need to check them out later.

No sign of Thomas though. Has anyone got any ideas where he might have got to? How stable was employment in the Durham mines around that time? Where did people go/come from, etc.?

Grateful for any help on this one.

Gadget


* Denbighshire can often be mistranscribed as Derbyshire!

[MaureeninNY]

Hi Gadget,
 This looks probable on 1891:
RG12/4098 folio 23 page 40

Maureen
 

[MaureeninNY]

And in 1901:
18 Cobden Terrace
RG13/4678/130/ 4

Maureen

[Gadget]

Hi Maureen

Thanks for that. That will teach me not to assume a place of birth - I'd searched on Thom* and Tom* and on just Par*  b. Chirk/Denbighshire/etc  and just b. Wales and Denbighshire/variations. I didn't think that he would have been borm Durham 

Makes it more interesting now - some of the family must have moved much earlier than I thought. I've found Thomas with his parents on the 1851 in Hetton:

HO107/2393/418/32

The head is Isaac Parrish, 24, coal miner, b. Denbighshire North Wales

I'll now go find which family group he comes from. Also, if they moved that early on there might be even more 


Gadget

[Gadget]

I'm now thinking that Isaac might have been Caroline (my 2x great)'s brother. I can't check properly until I'm back in Newcastle. That would make Thomas my great Grandmother's first cousin.

Grief -  and there was me thinking that only one family moved up -  and then only briefly - and I was the first to settle in the NE ! This line all had lots of children.

One of Isaac's children was b. Belmont - I lived close by there when I first moved up!

By now,  I might have lots of relatives up here 


Gadget


Added - how would Isaac have got up from North Wales in the mid-1840s - no railways in the Chirk area then.

[Gadget]

Just found Isaac (aged 15), Thomas's father in Chirk on the 1841. He was my Caroline's brother:

 HO107/1399/1/8/7


I'd still be interested to find out how and why they travelled such great distances? 

Also,  that they kept in touch 55 years or so  after Isaac had moved away.



Gadget


Added - on the 1911, Thomas is living at 44 Princess Street, Brandon Colliery. A  Miner Deputy Overman, aged 63, b. Springwell 

They'd been married 41 years and had 8 children, only 4 of whom had survived. So will try to chase up those 4.

[Gadget]

James Parrish, mentioned in my first posting, was the illegitimate son of Caroline's sister, Athalia/Thalia, so another 1st cousin to Great Grandmother and to Thomas.  Obviously, his daughter was named after her.

[angelfish58]

Just been looking at 1911 and I have a Thomas Heppell at 13 Cobden Terrace, Brandon Colliery ( my gg grandmas brother), our Thomas's may have known each other.

(In 1901 my Thomas is at no. 11)

[Gadget]

 

I've gone back through all the censuses on the families now. I've got to chase up so many different lines. They seemed to have many children and their children had many............

I'm now going to try and work forwards to find if I have any current relatives in Durham!



Gadget