Author Topic: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary  (Read 18622 times)

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Re: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary
« Reply #9 on: Monday 27 July 09 18:37 BST (UK) »
This looks to be the banns/marriage of Susan and Peter, actual extract from the OPRs:

SUSAN GILLIES and PETER MACQUILKAN    
Marriage: 16 JUN 1853 Glassary, Argyll, Scotland

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Re: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary
« Reply #10 on: Monday 27 July 09 18:42 BST (UK) »
Regarding John Wilkies and Isabella, certainly looks like her surname may have been McLean. There is a submitted entry on IGI with these details:

ISABELLA MC LEAN Birth: 14 MAR 1861 Aird, Muckairn, Argyll, Scotland
Parents:   HECTOR MCLEAN and CHRISTIAN TURNER

Also this possible 1861 entry:

Hector McLean 21, lab. tenant b. Kilbrandon, Argyll
Christian McLean 21 b. Muckairn
Isabella McLean 1 Month b. Muckairn
Mary McKichen 71, dairy maid b. Torasa McUll, Argyll

Address: Aird, Muckairn

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Re: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary
« Reply #11 on: Monday 27 July 09 19:06 BST (UK) »
You are quick, Monica! Regarding the Crawford entry mentioned earlier with Hugh Actkin as nephew, if he was Donald's son he would have been Archie's nephew. Could have been Catherine's I suppose, though. The 1861 census has him as Catherine's grandson. The 1871 census has them as Wilkies. The 1901 census is what made me think Isabella's a McLean since Duncan is listed as Duncan McLan [sic] Wilkie. When I subsequently found a war death record for Hector McLean Wilkie with the same birth date as my Hector I figured that must be him, but later found a second Hector with different siblings but a father John too. Same dates. Everyone was listed as born in Glassry or Kilmichael (which initially I hadn't realised ar the same place!).

Here's the 1901 record (address Gate Lodge):
John Wilkie 42
Isabella Wilkie 38
Hector Wilkie 14
John Wilkie 10 
Christina Wilkie 8
Peter Wilkie 5
Duncan McLan Wilkie 3

And the 1871 record (address 3 Ballamonach ):
Peter Wilkie 40
Susan Wilkie 40
John Wilkie 17
Malcom Wilkie 12
Peter Wilkie 10
Donald Wilkie 8
Watie Wilkie 6
Daman Wilkie 4
Susan Wilkie 14
Catherine Wilkie 2

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Anyway I have 100% more than I had last week!
Many thanks
Catherine


Lancashire: Read, Carter, Bayman; Yorkshire: Pearson, Warcup, Batty; Derbyshire/Notts: Carver; Liverpool: Carver; Scotland: Irving (Dalbeattie), Aitken, Crawford, Wilkie (Argyll).

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Re: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary
« Reply #12 on: Monday 27 July 09 19:11 BST (UK) »
Sorry I missed one of your earlier questions. IGI is the International Genealogical Index which is free to search at www.familysearch.org. It is particular good to for Scotland for the period post the start of official registration in Scotland from 1855 up to around 1874 when the LDS stopped doing this work. Entries before 1855 are mainly from the Old Parish Registers of the established Church of Scotland (Presbyterian). Check the entries as to whether they are actual extract or member submitted entries (such as the one for Isabella McLean b.1861). You need to verify submitted entries as they can be plain wrong  ::) Entries which are actual extract from the statutory registers or the Old Parish registers you should be able to find corresponding entries on Scotlands People.

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Re: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary
« Reply #13 on: Monday 27 July 09 19:16 BST (UK) »
I think in your position I woud double check the marriage entry for Hugh and Susan. You are right in thinking at this stage, without verifying it, that Hugh could have been the son of a Crawford daughter. This would make more sense to me and explain why he shows under the name of Aitken in the Crawford household. Quite often with illegitimate children, they would take the surname of the reputed father if known to them. The fact that he shows as Aitken in 1851 makes me think that the mother may have been a Crawford daughter. If he was the son of Donald or one of the other Crawford sons, I would expect Hugh to show under the surname of Crawford...not Aitken.

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Re: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary
« Reply #14 on: Monday 27 July 09 19:32 BST (UK) »
 ::) There are a number of trees on Ancestry for Hugh Aitken and Susan Wilkie.

On the one I am looking at, parents for Hugh show as Hugh Aitken and Mary Crawford....

Mary Crawford's parents show as William Crawford and Catherine Campbell. A number of children show on IGI to this couple, including at least son Archibald's birth matching what we saw on the census.

You have access to Ancestry...why don't you have a look. Lots of info on there!

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Re: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary
« Reply #15 on: Monday 27 July 09 19:39 BST (UK) »
It's a good tree backed up with certificates etc. They have attached the marriage cert for Hugh and Susan so no need to go hunting for it  ;) Also included is Hugh's death cert with parents' details left blank, so not known to the informant. This is why it is always better to look for verification from records that the person themselves provided info on rather than rely on the informants at death (in this case, one of Hugh's sons) to know this information. Not unusual for grandchildren not to know the names of grandparents or sometimes worse, get them wrong and send you off on a wild goosechase  :'(

The tree I've been looking at is the MacArthur/McPherson one.

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Re: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary
« Reply #16 on: Monday 27 July 09 19:47 BST (UK) »
Yes I do have Ancestry, Monica, but haven't had that yet as a  hot link! That sounds promising, thanks. Catherine

ps Have got myself in a tangle in Ancestry now as the tree there is not updated, I find the Genes one better. I use Ancestry to research and Genes to record. Can't even get my damn tree up! Doh!
Lancashire: Read, Carter, Bayman; Yorkshire: Pearson, Warcup, Batty; Derbyshire/Notts: Carver; Liverpool: Carver; Scotland: Irving (Dalbeattie), Aitken, Crawford, Wilkie (Argyll).

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Re: Aitken/Crawford/Wilkie, Glassary
« Reply #17 on: Monday 27 July 09 20:16 BST (UK) »
With Ancestry, from the HOME screen, you will see the option to search for an ancestor by putting in names. It comes up on the middle of my page the search screen but you may have different settings/layouts. Simply put in under father/mother's names Hugh and Susan's full names and press search and you will see the seven entries coming up.

Not sure what you mean about the Ancestry tree not being updated?

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