Edwards, LLanarmon D.C. Denbighshire

[Rol]

Good,  that provides a useful step towards clarity about the marriage sub-plot -- many thanks,  Aldeas.


Rol

[Aldeas]

Hi Annun & Gadget

I found the following on the Familysearch Beta site:  Robert Edwards born January 1737, Selattyn, Shropshire, England.  Father's name Robert Edwards.  It doesn't give any mother's name or mention Robert's marriage to Jane  but it is the nearest I have found to his possible birth date. What do you think?

Regards Aldeas

[annun]

Hi Aldeas,  Selatyn shows promise,I looked at Genuki for any clues and found a number of Edwards those we know about and others that could be related and it's the same with the Daniel's family.
 Today I found that the Maurice Hughes who married Mary Thomas in 1792 is not our Morris Hughes who married Jane Edwards on January 9 1798.

Maurice Hughes  otp Bachelor   Bans  whiteness  Thomas Hughes
Mary Thomas    otp  Spinster                         &  John Thomas.

Morris Hughes  otp Bachelor  Bans    whiteness  Thomas Andrew
Jane Edwards   otp Spinster.                          & Thomas Lewis

Our Morris is not widowed....... the Mary Thomas has relatives at Lloran. Lewis and CatherinThomas.
 In 1762 there was a burial of a Thomas Jones the son of John of Megen,not shure about any connection......but pre the 1740 to late 1750 there were Edward's family living at.Lloran and there a lot of Edwards in that district of Llangadwaladr,& Nantyr, PR Llansilin & Llanarmon. Regards Annun

[Rol]

Hmmm.

Good,  that provides a useful step towards clarity about the marriage sub-plot ...

P'raps not then . . .   In this game clarity can be a will o' the wisp.


Rol

[annun]

Hi Aldeas, found this one in the IGI today, William Edwards christening 18 December 1814 parents Edwd Edwards & Elizth Daniel Llanarmon D.C. I will go and check the parish registers..I find Robert Edwards at Tynyfedw Llanarmon,perhaps Jane was from Selatyn,and there are Edwards family in Selatyn back into the 1600's..I don't understand why Elisabeth is a Daniel in this entry they have 4 other kids since their marriage in 1797.or is it someone with same name.Regards Annun

[Aldeas]

Hi Annun

Sorry not to have replied earlier but we have been away again for the past three weeks so my research has ben neglected somewhat.  The William Edwards you found on the IGI   christening 18 December 1814 parents Edwd Edwards & Elizth Daniel Llanarmon D.C. is a possibility and  new to me.   I have only looked at the Parish Records for Llanarmon up until 1812 so will be interested to know if there were more children. I found an entry on the IGI Family Search for  the marriage of Robert Edwards and Jane Jones, May  1753 St Oswald, Oswestry, Shropshire which is also a possibility.   With a popular name like Robert Edwards it has become difficult to prove.

Regards Aldeas.

[Aldeas]

Hi Annun

I found a marriage 1.3.1756  on the IGI for Robert Edwards widower of Llansantffraid Glan Conwy and Jane Thomas widow of Eglwys Fach, Denbigh .  They had a son Robert born  Eglwys Fach 7.4.1758.  They could have moved to Tyn y Fedw, LLansilin  when Ann was born 23.5.1760.   When Robert died LLanarmon in 1778 the name John Thomas appears as a guarantor on the Probate Bond.  He could have been a relative by marriage.    What do you think ?

Regards Aldeas

[annun]

Hi Aldeas,

William Edwards widow 65ys Llanarmon D.C born1814/16
Margaret Edwards daughter Un 24,Lodge Salop born 1857
William Edwards son 11 Llanfechen Montgomery born 1870
John R Edwards Grandson 2 Llanarmon D.C 1879.

This is an entry in the 1881 census for Ty Coch Llanarmon D.C.  the address is known to us,Richard & Catherine Hughes lived there after leaving Sarphle and the Edward's family also lived at Ty Coch.The William Edwards,above was he Edward & Elisabeth Edward's Megain's Son.I wonder if any of the above Counties have any clues as to the movement of the Edwards family.regards Annun

[Aldeas]

Hi Annun

I saw the entry in 1881 census for William Edwards.   IGI confirms that William was the son of my 3x gtgrandfather Edward Edwards and Elizabeth Daniel.  I saw from the census for William  that his daughter Margaret was born in Shropshire.  He married a Frances Griffiths of Llangedwn in 1844.   I wonder how William came to be in Shropshire. Most of their children were born there.  In 1851 he was a publican at the Star Inn, Oswestry.  In 1861 he became a farmer at Weston Hall , Shropshire and then moved to Penycae, Ruabon.  He certainly moved around a bit.  Maybe we were right and there maybe a connection with Robert Edwards of Megin and Selatyn, Shropshire.  I see William ended up farming at Ty Coch so he may have taken over from his older brother Robert who was farming there in 1841.  The 1901 census shows a Mary Hughes, widow, farming at Migin.  Do you know anything about her background ?   She must have followed Henry Hughes who had married and moved on to Penybryn and later Middleton Farm, Oswestry ?   Maybe I need to get hold of a copy of the Shropshire Parish Records.

Best wishes Aldeas