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Re: McFARLANE -South Australia
« Reply #18 on: Friday 19 December 14 02:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the research you have done.
It has been along time since I have touched this family tree.

As you can see Duncan Married twice once in Scotland to Agness McNee 12 7 1818. They had one child Agnes birth 12 11 1823. Agnes mother Duncan's wife died 1 2 1837.
He then came out to South Australia on the India, as did Elizabeth Norris.
There is no record of a marriage as Civil reg began 1842. But there is a record of the birth of Duncan Lennox at the church (Presbyterian)  Morphett Vale Church records were burnt in a fire.

We also know that he moved to  Mt Barker (pres)  he was a member of the church.

Elizabeth Norris when on to have 5 more children  to John Castley there is photos of this couple.

I have read most of the newspaper notes from Trove.

We now know of two other Duncan McFarlane's in this area.  Duncan McFarlane aboard the “Parland” from Sydney arrived SA 1838.
The second one arrived on the “Triton” according to clan info.
The ship “David Witton” from Pt Phillip 1839 is to do with sheep (Charted) unknown if there was a Duncan McFarlane on it.

By looking at the web page of the Clan we see two other children David and John that have been attached to this family, But we are not a wear of these two children.

It also states that Duncan Lennox McFarlane (son)wife Ann Bateman died of typhoid in Melbourne. Death cert states Febris Auterica 2 weeks.
Fingramm88rec (Ancestry) states that Duncan, James brother never married.  If anyone can sent me the tree I would be most interested.  We know that Duncan, James brother did marry possible twice.
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Re: McFARLANE -South Australia
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 21 December 14 00:36 GMT (UK) »
Duncan is not buried in West Terrace Cemetery, the Cemetery states that he only had a plot there. :)

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Re: McFARLANE -South Australia
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 21 December 14 03:04 GMT (UK) »
Duncan is not buried in West Terrace Cemetery, the Cemetery states that he only had a plot there. :)

Really.  So you are saying this transcribed entry from their online database which is transcribed from burial register is incorrect?
It would be illegal to enter a death of a person in a Burial Register and Burial Orders Register who was not buried at that cemetery.

Transcription of the death registration again.

Death
MACFARLANE Duncan  63 years  Relative not recorded
27 Oct 1856
Residence Mitcham  Death Place Mitcham  Ade 5/264

http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/RecordsSearch.aspx
Burial at West Terrace Cemetery
McFARLANE Duncan  52 years
Date of Death 29 October 1856  [This is date of burial]
Last Abode Glen Osmond
Section Road 1 South; Path Number 17; E/W/-Count E and Site# 26

The information is overwhelming that your ancestor who arrived on the INDIA in 1840 is not this man.  The above Duncan arrived in South Australia 1838 on the PARLAND and it is written he arrived in the Colony of NSW in 1824. 

Even the website you quote has.....
The confusion over identity possibly arose from the fact that another Duncan MacFarlane
arrived in Adelaide in the ship ‘India’ on 23rd February 1840, and who later is said to have
married a fellow passenger, Elizabeth Norris and thereafter settled in SA.


Another researcher has posted information about your Duncan McFARLANE who arrived on the INDIA 1840, you have not even acknowledged him.  His information places your Duncan initially south of Adelaide not at Mt Barker.   I also noticed on the web, a comment made by another descendant of your Duncan, that it was believed he died in a mining accident.  If this is the case, there may have been an inquest and his death not registered.  This occurred quite frequently which makes it difficult for researchers.

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Hi Steve, Duncan settled at Morphett Vale with a group of 17 small farm allotments of 20 acres I believe were set up by the South Australia co. of which my ancestor was a part of. (John Ash Cullen)They called them selves United States settlement and States road derives its name from them. This info came from the 1844 gazette and Duncan was gone by 1850 when the road tax was instigated as his name was not on the index in the papers. I am researching these settlers so as to place them on the block they settled on . I had a break through when I searched the Piper /Bakewell/ Piper index that named my ancestors plot when conveyancing took place when he sold out in 1850. If you have the 1840 survey plan of MV the 80 acres blocks that were split up were 640,641,642,627,612 and have placed some of these people by reading the digitised papers. Do you have any photos of the elder McFarlanes ? My ancestor came out to NZ also and I live in Tauranga . regards Vaughan Cullen

Perhaps spend some time and read the thread again including all the links. :)

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Re: McFARLANE -South Australia
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 21 December 14 03:31 GMT (UK) »
The information is overwhelming that your ancestor who arrived on the INDIA in 1840 is not this man.  The above Duncan arrived in South Australia 1838 on the PARLAND and it is written he arrived in the Colony of NSW in 1824. 

Here's some NSW NSW 1828 Census info.    :)
Duncan McFARLANE, aged 28, Protestant, arrived per Triton 1824, came free, Superintendent, in the household of G T Palmer, at Limestone Plains, in the Goulburn Plains district.   

He is also found in the 1837 Muster records, at Maneroo, with at least 25 assigned convicts.   

The NSW Col Sec papers 1788-1825 index has him as James Duncan MCFARLANE, cf per Triton 1824, with 3 separate entries on that index, including listed as John McFarlin in August 1825.
http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/default.htm

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Re: McFARLANE -South Australia
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 21 December 14 04:08 GMT (UK) »
We now know of two other Duncan McFarlane's in this area.  Duncan McFarlane aboard the “Parland” from Sydney arrived SA 1838.
The second one arrived on the “Triton” according to clan info.
The ship “David Witton” from Pt Phillip 1839 is to do with sheep (Charted) unknown if there was a Duncan McFarlane on it.   

 :) I think you will find that the "Triton" sighting is the one I noted as arriving in NSW in 1824. 

 :) Have you sought out the name of the chap who charted the ship "David Witton" in 1839.   To my thinking, (and I can be way off track),  it would be far easier even in the 1830s to drove sheep from the Goulburn - Canberra district to Port Phillip for transhipment to the new colony of South Australia than to drove them up to Sydney and then charter a ship from there to Adelaide. 

The 1828 NSW census, also has a James McFarlane, aged 32, Presbyterian, arrived per Triton 1823, Came Free, Landholder, residence : Inverallochy, in the Goulburn Plains District. 

There's also the 1823 NSW Muster, and a John McFarlane, per the Triton, came free, as a settler at Windsor (NSW)

http://www.bda-online.org.au/   http://www.bda-online.org.au/mybda/search

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Re: McFARLANE -South Australia
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 21 December 14 04:15 GMT (UK) »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/32163911    Sydney Monitor 1 May 1939

"Happily no lives were lost, and it is possible that the ship may be got off.  D. Macfarlane, Esq., the charterer, who was on board,started for Adelaide as soon as it was light, and arrived there in  the evening. He spoke in the highest terms of the attention and activity of Captain Wright,.......
..... loss of the David Witton, the charterer of that vessel has taken up the Thomas Harrison for voyages to Port Phillip, during the season. ....."

I suggest that there was a Duncan McFarlane of the David Witton.(edit from add 'bound for') Port Phillip 1839    I misread the cutting  ::)


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« Reply #24 on: Sunday 21 December 14 05:15 GMT (UK) »
This event took place after the DAVID WITTON had departed from Holdfast Bay [Glenelg] South Australia en route to Port Philip.

A little research here and mentions the Duncan who arrived on the INDIA in 1840. The researchers have confused the two Duncan's, claiming the successes by Duncan, the JP of Mt Barker and other SA pastoral holdings and establishing a very successful sheep stud with the Duncan who arrived on the INDIA and possibly, according to a researcher, may have died in a mining accident.  Death not registered.  Wonder if he tootled across the border to the Vic goldfields...so many did from SA
http://clanmacfarlane.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Arrochybeg-to-Australia-Part-Two.pdf

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