Edward Owen Marks

[RRYFS]

Can anyone help please? Edward Owen Marks (a potter born 1863 Brownsea, Dorset, England) arrived in New York from Liverpool in 1918, apparently giving Auckland as his last address. He was previously in the US till at least 1880, but then most of his family disappear. Is there any trace of him (and his family) in New Zealand?

[Lucy2]

Hi

Unable to find any trace of Edward Owen MARKS in New Zealand.

You talk about "his family"  ... but you haven't given their names ?

Can you supply further information about the family ?

Lu

[Lucy2]

Hello again

Have just been reading your other thread concerning the MARKS family ... and the information which has been provided by another RootsChatter.

If your Edward Owen MARKS is indeed the same person who emigrated to the USA in 1871, then any journey he made to New Zealand, seems perhaps to be much more likely to have been made from a USA port ?   

NZ has a wealth of passenger lists (available online) but these are mainly for voyages from UK and Scottish ports.  (There are very few lists available for journeys from the USA ... and your Edward MARKS name does not come up in a surname search on passenger lists.)

I would suggest that you try searching passenger lists "into the UK" .   These may reveal Edward making a trip from New Zealand and perhaps provide you with further information of time spent in NZ).   

We can't really assist you further in searching NZ for his "disappearing" family until you provide details of these people.

Lu
 

 

[momo1959]

Can anyone help please? Edward Owen Marks (a potter born 1863 Brownsea, Dorset, England) arrived in New York from Liverpool in 1918, apparently giving Auckland as his last address. He was previously in the US till at least 1880, but then most of his family disappear. Is there any trace of him (and his family) in New Zealand?

Hi, My Gr Gr Uncle was James Lovell, the father of Martha Tilley, He is buried On Brownsea Island, He was married to Sophia Tilley.
It would appear that your wife is of Tilley ancestry ,if I have understood your posts correctly.. Do you have any knowledge of the Lovell family? My grandmother was Mary Lovell ,she married Edwin Amey,Her Mother was Caroline Trim ,she married William Lovell, who was the nephew of james Lovell and Son of William Lovell ,brother to James Lovell. William Lovell born 1826 drowned in Quebec,whilst on a ship named `The Caroline `from  Poole to Quebec in 1852, He was only 26 and had a wife (Maria (nee Cartridge) and William Lovell jnr at home in Poole.There was another brother to James... Edward Lovell, He lived next to James and Sophia(nee Tilley) in Maryland village ,Brownsea Island in 1871.. I was pleased to see that you had been to James`s Grave, I was on the island a few weeks ago...I was also pleased to find out what had become of the family, I had been scouring since making the connection, can you now tell me what happened to Martha?
best regards

[RRYFS]

Hi
Not sure my answers will be what you are looking for, but here goes. I believe that James was Martha's stepfather. She was born in c.1836, and James and Sophia married in 1843. Sophia was 16 when Martha was born and is on the 1841 census living with 2 other young women, and Martha.
I was also on Brownsea this summer for our first Grandson's baptism. If you have family connections with former residents, the Parish will permit you to marry there, and our eldest daughter was married in St Mary's in 2009. This time, without assistance, I was not able to identify James' gravestone - the lady who is usually in the church in the summer has a map of marked graves which a previous rector researched and James' had identifiable initials on the stone when the map was produced. There are either 2 or 3 of Martha's children buried there in unmarked graves.
I did manage to trace Edward. When he retired (and finished travelling round the world) he moved in with his younger sister Clara in Florida (neither had ever married). She had been a schoolteacher, and they died, and are buried in Florida - Clara in 1942 and Edward in 1945. A kind person sent me detail from the Cemetery. Martha and William had one (or possibly two) further children, born in the US and I had some success in tracing the family of Thomas who was born in 1872. I have not been able to find any more detail about Martha and William - they emigrated to Columbus, Ohio, and Thomas was born there. I was unable to find a death record for either of them, and have not since picked up that line. I also have no idea what happened to Sophia after James' death.
Happy to share further if you want - send me a PM.
Richard