miles mcinnes on arrivals from australia

[karenoz]

hi Lu, just got the death c for maria theresa quinn

death 1899 age 44  (hmm think this is out abit.)

father Bernard Quinn labour
mother Ellen Nerney            (you where right on there.)
birth place dublin,ireland
in nsw 32 yrs
at age of marriage 17yrs     (this then doesnt add up to her age put down)
spouse john mcinnes
children of marriage=1 male living unknown name
place of death newington asylum

nothing about john being decease or  she had other children.

[Lucy2]

Hi Karen

[WOW !    That was beaut service from the transcription agent  ... getting the record so quickly ! ] 

Oh dear  ... it seems that there was a real tragic element to the life of Maria.   

I'm guessing that the informant to her death, was a medical attendant (or somesuch) ?   
(This probably accounts for some of the info "not quite stacking up" ?   Still it's interesting that parents names /and spouse have been given correctly.)

I did think earlier, that the reason why we had found no trace of Ernest Nerney McINNES, was that he may have been adopted out as an infant ?    And of course you've found the index record for Andrew, Godfrey and Ellen being placed at Randwick Asylum in 1877 (about the time of Ernest's birth) ?

*   I wonder if there are any records for this Newington Asylum where Maria died, and whether there might be a record of her admission date ?

Lu

[karenoz]

hi Lu, never thought of that , yes on it says she died of tuberculous has down  length of illness unknown.

another thought was maybe the mcinnes in romsey took him and renamed him as john was there only boy who married and had children, thus being the only heirs, they where kinda funny in those days about these things, wander if this too happen to myles bernard that he was taken from his mother.

yes its is a sad story this family,as it unfolds.

thanks
karen

[karenoz]

hi again, i wandering if i apply for those records at randwick ayslum would i get the reasons and if it tells me if john is dead at this time. if so can i get these through the same guy.

thanks yes he was fast !
karen

[Lucy2]

hi Lu, never thought of that , yes on it says she died of tuberculous has down  length of illness unknown.

Hi Karen

There's a lot of info available re: Newington Asylum (later Newington State Hospital) ... do a "Google" search for it.
Seems that there are some records available also for inmates.

1883 - NSW government opened the Newington Asylum.  The home cared for poor homeless women and women with chronic diseases.

[So quite probably Maria was a long-term sufferer of TB ?]

Lu

[Lucy2]

hi again, i wandering if i apply for those records at randwick ayslum would i get the reasons and if it tells me if john is dead at this time. if so can i get these through the same guy.

Was just about to suggest that you get the Randwick Asylum records.   

I'm not sure what sort of info they will contain.  ( I got the record for my g-g-gran and her sister who were placed in a NSW orphanage - though they weren't strictly orphans.   It gave admission and release dates, and to whom released.)
Yes, get in contact again with transcription agent - he's always happy to answer any questions.   

Lu

[Lucy2]

You know Karen, I was just thinking earlier about John McINNES.

I know there is no (obvious) registration for his death on the NSW index, but I do wonder if he died about the time of birth of Ernest Nerney ??

Something "catastrophic" has obviously happened to this family in 1877.

Do you have a date for Ernest Nerney's birth?   

It doesn't matter too much if you haven't.    But somewhere in the space of say, seven months, in 1877, this family (or part of it) has moved from Balranald (Ernest's birth reg'd. there) ... to Sydney (800 odd kms away) !

There doesn't appear to be a historic society specifically covering Balranald, but the Balranald Shire Council may be able to assist with cemetery records ?    May be worth trying there to see if there is a record for John McINNES ?

[Gosh  ... Balranald was a wee place - 1873 population was only about 350.  ]

Lu

[karenoz]

yes thanks Lu, i am just reading how awful the newington asylum was, it just gets sadder.

yes i go look there

thanks
karen

[Lucy2]

Hi Karen

I've now got the funeral notices for Violet and Sidney.

They had 3 daughters and 4 grandchildren.
Two of the girls predeceased their father (1980) but I suspect they (girls) were born after 1929, as their deaths aren't showing on the Death index ?

Will send you the info via PM, shortly.

Meantime will look further for families of the daughters.

Lu