miles mcinnes on arrivals from australia

[Lucy2]

Oooh !!    I just found this.     

[Makes me feel better about not having found anything for Blanche.]   

Australian Newspaper search

Argus (Melbourne) - Friday, 11 October 1940 - page 4 :

[NOTE relating to this article:     "This item has been digitised, is still being checked, and will be available in the next few weeks".    The following is my interpretation of what is viewable online at present : ]]

"KIRKPATRICK .. On October 10th, 1940, at a private hospital, Brunswick ... dearly loved wife of Thomas Allan KIRKPATRICK of 140  ....   Thelma Myles ... loved daughter of Madeline and the late Miles McINNES and loved sister of Violet (Mrs ROBSON) and Miles Bernard McINNES  ... "

[It looks like her husband was known as "Allan" and that mother Blanche ... was actually called by her second name,  "Madeline"  ??]

Lu

[Lucy2]

Hmmm ... yes, I didn't think that Blanche Madeline wouldn't have been all alone and living in Auckland.  (There had to be another family member around  ... somewhere ?).

So here she is ...   

Cemetery Record - Purewa Cemetery, Auckland, NZ

Violet Irene ROBSON

Died 1966 - aged 65 years   (bc 1901)

Date of service :   26 May 1966  (Cremation)

Ashes :   Returned (to  family ?)


If I've got time this week, will see if I can locate her funeral notice.

Lu

[karenoz]

Hi Lu, i cant get over it, YOU have  found HEAPs    well done!!! how do you do all that in that time.

got word from Meg she found out myles murdoch gson says he dosnt know much only that his father myles bernard was brought up by rallies,and never knew his sisters.

so Voilet follow her mother to nz.

cant get over this family being all over the place and what a sad family that got broken up .

thanks Lu  i think you have crack it. you truly amaze me how you find it all.

karen

[Meg7]

Hi Lu and Karen,

It is really great.  Given the name Robson on Myles Bernard's death certificate as his mother I would say one of his sisters looked after him.  Can check the marriages tomorrow.

I can't see a death for Thomas Allan but Thelma is there aged 32.  Hopefully Violet married the Robson in Victoria.   

Hey maybe there are some Robson relatives around.

Meg

[Lucy2]

got word from Meg she found out myles murdoch gson says he dosnt know much only that his father myles bernard was brought up by rallies,and never knew his sisters.

so Voilet follow her mother to nz.

Hi Karen

Aw   ... I was so peeved at not finding anything for Blanche Madeline in NZ  ... just thought I needed to apply a bit more effort !       

Interesting ... the new info about Miles Bernard ... not knowing his sisters.  ??     (Of course, they were a lot older than him - especially Violet who was 18 years his senior).    But why did MB when he enlisted, put his mothers' name (B. McINNES) as his next-of-kin ?    Strange ?   And also (in 1936) his mother and sister were living together ... and (in 1940) he's listed as "loved brother of Thelma".   

I'm thinking that Violet and (possibly her husband and family?) went to NZ (after say, 1940) and probably took Blanche with them as by this time, Thelma had died ?

Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi again  ... just spotted Meg's post.   

Yep  .. good thinking Meg, re:  the ROBSON / ROBINSON names.   

I'd thought, because they are so similar, that "Robson" might have been substituted for "Robinson" on those certs  ... but yes, it does make a lot of sense that Miles B. might have been raised as part of his eldest sister's family. 

Begs the question though ?   

*   What was Blanche doing while her son was (possibly) being raised by his sister ?     (I note that there is no occupation given for Blanche in those 1930 and 1936 E/roll listings ?   Of course Blanche was 42 or so, when Miles B. was born, so she would have been approaching 60, in 1936).

Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi again Girls

Meg  ... just wondered if you might be able to find a listing (electoral roll) for Violet Irene ROBSON in 1930 / 1936 ?    (Would be interesting to see if she is living close by to her mother and sister). 

Grrr !      We still ain't got any further clues on Miles Murdoch !   

*   Might there be a "trade directory" (or Wises Post office directory or similar) for around 1922, which may have a listing for Miles Murdoch ?     (I kinda figure that as his occupation was "linotyper" ... and that he was in the printing industry, then he was more likely to be living in a reasonably large town ... than "out the back of Bourke" ?   
Of course he could well have ditched that trade  ... or he may have done a runner from his family and taken on a new identity ?)   

Lu

[Lucy2]

Duh !    (It's too early in the day for me to be thinking clearly).   

Miles Murdoch McINNES

Yes, it just occurred to me that THIS family obviously knew that Miles M. was deceased (as per Thelma's 1940 death notice) ... so the theory of him "having done a runner or changing his identity, just doesn't stack up !  )

I liked the earlier thinking, that perhaps Miles M. could have died whilst in transit to Australia - circa 1922-23.

Question

*   Are there any specific registers in OZ, for "deaths at sea" ?

[If he'd died on a voyage between NZ and Oz, then it's most likely the ship he was on, would have had an NZ or Oz registration, and the death would have been recorded at the nearest port (or in a marine deaths register at nearest port) ].

Lu

[Meg7]

Hi again Girls

Meg  ... just wondered if you might be able to find a listing (electoral roll) for Violet Irene ROBSON in 1930 / 1936 ?    (Would be interesting to see if she is living close by to her mother and sister). 


Lu

Hi Lu,

Good thinking.  Only in 1931.  Sidney Clarence a traveller and Violet Irene living at 37 Briggs St Caulfield.