William parks

[stubblehill]

again I cannot find a birth. William Parks on the 1891 census aged 7 born Mile End Old Town Father William Henry Parks whose wife is Mary I know that Henry and Mary only married in 1886 two years after William was born so have looked for William under both Parks and Harris on both free BMD index and the IGI but nothing. I must be doing something terribly wrong or does this often happen not being able to find births.
Please please help
ST

[madpants]

If you are sure that's his birthplace maybe you could investigate

male Harris Sept Q 1883 Mile End 1c 481

a query on mother's name when ordering from the GRO will cost you £3 out of the £7 if it's the wrong cert but it could get you the right one 

Even looking at it a couple of years either side there are no other obvious candidates. 

[silvery]

I think these may be the family

1891    RG12/307/64/3  86 White Horse Lane,  Reg district - Mile End Old Town

Henry Wm Parks 55 oilman (colour) b Hackney
Mary 44 b Wiltshire
William 7 b Mile End

1881   RG11/481/36/3    86 White Horse Lane,   reg district: Mile End Old Town

Henry Parks 43 wid, oilman b Hackney
Edward Parks son 20, carman b Stepney
Ann Parks, dau, 18 housekeeper b STepney
Henry Parks 12, son b Stepney

[madpants]

Nice Silvery 

If they married in 1886 and Henry was already a widower in 1881 then it does lend more weight to William being born a Harris as there would be no impediment to their marriage if he was Williams father.

[stubblehill]

Once again thanks for all your input, Yes it is definitely the right family. I think like you the Harris born mile end 1883 1c481 is quite likely to be the William I am looking for.
Were children born out of wedlock not baptised back in those days, is that perhaps why I cant find him on the IGI
ST

[madpants]

You've not found him on the IGI probably because it is nowhere near a complete record of Parish registers.  Most parishes are only transcribed up to 1837 anyway.  What you need is to see the records themselves.  You can do this by going to your local LDS centre and by pre ordering all the parishes in Mile End Old Town you can look at them on fiche for the right time. 

[stubblehill]

thanks I will certinally do that, I dont have to knock myself about thinking I'm being stupid

[Dawn Soger]

I have a great-grandfather, William Parks who was in Battersea in 1891.  I'm not sure if this would be the same William Parks you are looking for?  I know he had a son William who was born about 1893.  William's 1st wife, Martha Ann(e) Gillam Parks died leaving six children.  William married Ada Cullin or Cullen (I see it spelled Cullin) in a letter in my possession.  She had a daughter, Edith prior to them marrying.  William (the son) joined the Military.  I have two (2) possible Williams who _could_ be my great-uncle - one William who's brother George, was notified at the time of his death, and the other William Alfred Parks who's father was listed as William Parks!  It would be great if we are looking for the _same_ William Parks!

[stubblehill]

Dawn Hi

This was a real bolt out of the blue it has been so long since researching the Parks family.

I really don't think I can say one way or the other if my William Parks born 1884 Mile End London(as stated on the 1891 census) is any thing to do with yours as I only have one record of him and that as the son of Henry William Parks (1836-1916.) As I said in an earlier posting he is down on the 1891 census as son of Henry William and mother Mary. The marriage I thought was of Henry William to a Mary Ann Harris in 1886 was not correct as that marriage was in fact Henry Williams son also Henry William to a Louisa Holton.
I have never found a birth for William around 1884 that I felt comfortable enough to send for a certificate. It might even be a transcription error on the census, his age could have been 1 instead of 7.
I have no idea as to his his mother is but feel that it may have been Henry Williams first wife Ann Ball's  sister Mary Ball as they came from Wiltshire but once again I have no proof.

Good luck in your search

Stubbs