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« on: Wednesday 22 July 09 15:07 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me by confimring whether or not I am correct in thinking that the latin word 'equisdem' means 'the same' (ie. the same month or the same day etc)?

I have the registers for the latter part fo the 19th century for a catholic church in Wiltshire to transcribe and have come across this term quite a few times for the birth & baptism date of several children.  Eg.  someone is born 8th July 1870 and is then baptised on "22nd equisdem 1870".  I've been assuming that this means they were baptised on 22nd July 1870.

A church worker has been checking my transcription agaist the actual book (I've been working from photos of the book's pages) and has altered my entry for this person to read baptisms on "22nd August 1870".  Are they correct?  I have had a few of the months denoted as numbers (ie 9 or 10 or even 8) with some sort of latin ending after the number but from what I can remember of my O level Latin over 30 years ago equ... meant the same or equal.

Perhaps there is a 19th century ecclesiastical latin scholar out there who can help me as the Google translator certainly can't!!

Many thanks.
Berks: MILLARD
Cornwall (west): HOSKEN, WOOLCOCK, DONNITHORNE, TREWEEK, TRESEDDER, MITCHELL, NANCARROW, REYNOLDS
Cambs/Hunts: LANGFORD, WRIGHT
Derbys: MOTTRAM
Hants/Surrey (London): BRACKSTONE, SCOREY, DENSLOW, POULTER, WYLD, KINCHIN, RANGER, LEWIS, DAVIES
Herts: JUDD, UNCLE, RUMBALL
Nth Yorks: MOON
Suffolk/Essex/Cambs: WINNY, SARGENT, DICKERSON, RUSH, WATTS, PICKESS, MASON, SCOTCHER, ADAMS, FERNSWORTH
Shropshire: GOUGH, BYWATER, POULTER
Warks/Worcs: WHITE, SALMON, WOODWARD, WIMBLETT

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Re: Latin terms in Catholic church registers
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 15:41 BST (UK) »
Although not answering your question, this could be helpful http://www.xmission.com/~nelsonb/latin.htm

EDIT:  Having seen hughar's answer, it does answer your question.
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Re: Latin terms in Catholic church registers
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 15:42 BST (UK) »
The word you are thinking of that means the same is probably "ejusdem"

FamilySearch has a helpful article at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/guide/WLLatin.asp

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Re: Latin terms in Catholic church registers
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 15:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you both very much for these. 

'Ejusdem' - that is definitely it.  I knew that I wasn't looking at a letter'y' for the second letter of the word (and it's just this one particular priest who uses the term so I couldn't even check it against another person's handwriting), but I made the mistake of assuming that it was a lower case script letter 'q' instead.

Thank you so much for putting me right on that and also for confirming the date for me.  I'm very grateful.
Berks: MILLARD
Cornwall (west): HOSKEN, WOOLCOCK, DONNITHORNE, TREWEEK, TRESEDDER, MITCHELL, NANCARROW, REYNOLDS
Cambs/Hunts: LANGFORD, WRIGHT
Derbys: MOTTRAM
Hants/Surrey (London): BRACKSTONE, SCOREY, DENSLOW, POULTER, WYLD, KINCHIN, RANGER, LEWIS, DAVIES
Herts: JUDD, UNCLE, RUMBALL
Nth Yorks: MOON
Suffolk/Essex/Cambs: WINNY, SARGENT, DICKERSON, RUSH, WATTS, PICKESS, MASON, SCOTCHER, ADAMS, FERNSWORTH
Shropshire: GOUGH, BYWATER, POULTER
Warks/Worcs: WHITE, SALMON, WOODWARD, WIMBLETT


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Re: Latin terms in Catholic church registers
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 16:04 BST (UK) »
Can this topic now be moved to 'COMPLETED' please (unless anyone else wants to join in for their requests)?

Thank you very much.
Berks: MILLARD
Cornwall (west): HOSKEN, WOOLCOCK, DONNITHORNE, TREWEEK, TRESEDDER, MITCHELL, NANCARROW, REYNOLDS
Cambs/Hunts: LANGFORD, WRIGHT
Derbys: MOTTRAM
Hants/Surrey (London): BRACKSTONE, SCOREY, DENSLOW, POULTER, WYLD, KINCHIN, RANGER, LEWIS, DAVIES
Herts: JUDD, UNCLE, RUMBALL
Nth Yorks: MOON
Suffolk/Essex/Cambs: WINNY, SARGENT, DICKERSON, RUSH, WATTS, PICKESS, MASON, SCOTCHER, ADAMS, FERNSWORTH
Shropshire: GOUGH, BYWATER, POULTER
Warks/Worcs: WHITE, SALMON, WOODWARD, WIMBLETT

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Re: Latin terms in Catholic church registers
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 16:09 BST (UK) »
Can this topic now be moved to 'COMPLETED' please

Add COMPLETED to the title of the first post (using "modify")
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