Lister BRADSHAW - Vic/NSW

[cwelli]

Lister is the last thread to my Australian tree that I haven't managed to complete as yet. Please can anyone help?
Lister was born in Armadale, Victoria in 1900. He was the only son of my great grandfather John Bradshaw and his second wife Alice Aitken. I believe he died in Sydney in 1968. I gather his first wife was Ethel Marshall and I think they married in 1924.
Does anyone know where she was born and when? Did she die, or were they divorced?
I also think they had a son, David, who died around 1935.
Does anyone know when he was born and were there any other chidren?
His second wife was Doris Mcevoy who I think he married in 1932 in Sydney.
Does anyone know where she was born and when? also when she died and did she and Lister have any children?
Any help will be very gratefully received. I live in England and if I can return any help I will.

Carol

[cando]

Marriage
BRADSHAW Lister James
MARSHALL Ethel Maud
1924  Reg#11173

The marriage certificate would give you her age, place of birth and the names of her parents, including her mother's maiden name.

You can purchase online and immediately download AUD$17.50
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

There is this birth but no way of knowing if it is your Ethel

MARSHALL Ethel Maud Dashwood
Father Malcolm  Mother Annie Frances PLUNKETT
At Flemington  1898  REg#11037

However there is this marriage and death in Victoria

BRADSHAW Ethel Maude
STEVENS Frederick Ivor
1931  Reg#2032

STEVENS Ethel Maude
Father Malcolm MARSHALL  Mother Ann Frances
1983  85 years at Warrenheip


Marriage in NSW
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

11862/1932     
BRADSHAW  Lister J     
MCEVOY Doris
District Waverley

Death
3330/1968     
BRADSHAW  Lister James
Father John Mother Alice
District Sydney 

There are three death notices for a Doris [May/Mary] BRADSHAW on
http://www.ryersonindex.org/

There is a facility to request a lookups of the notices.  Click onto the link on the left of the home page and follow the instructions.  Results are emailed to you.  The lookups are done by volunteers.

Death
21204/1935     
BRADSHAW  David
Father Lister J Mother Doris M
District Paddington

Births are not available online in NSW post 1908.


Australian Electoral Rolls
1936  NSW
BRADSHAW Doris  16 Bourke Street, Waverley South HD
BRADSHAW Lister James  16 Bourke Street, Waverley South  Salesman

The names of any children alive or deceased would be on the parents death certificates ie if known to the informants.

A transcription of a certificate is a cheaper option in NSW.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToSearch.htm#TranscriptionAgent

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

A bit more about Lister

There is a digitised WW1 service record - and a WW2 record as well on
http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ResearcherScreen.asp

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/
BRADSHAW, Lister James
Royal Australian Air Force      Service#130012
Date of Birth 21 Jul 1900 at Armadale, Vic
Date and locality of enlistment 14 Jan 1943  Bondi
Place of Enlistment    Sydney, NSW   
Next of Kin Doris BRADSHAW
Discharged on    29 Jul 1943     Rank    Leading Aircraftman
and his Posting at Discharge    2 Embarkation Depot, Bradfield Park.

http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1737898?searchTerm=lister+james+bradshaw
Lister James Bradshaw appeared before the Central Police Court ) yesterday charged on a provisional warrant with having, in California United States forged a document
for 10 000 dollars. The police, in asking for an adjournment said that an escort from America would not arrive until March 24.Counsel for Bradshaw said that his client denied the charge. He was remanded to March 24. Bail was fixed at 500 pounds.

Cheers
Cando

[cwelli]

Thank you, that's a brilliant start and mainly confirms my suspicions. With regard to the last part I will contact a relation in the US who supplied me with a photo of my great grandfather with Lister.

[tropicalj]

Cando  you  certainly  gave Cwelli  a lot of information, very clear and concise

After reading it all and looking at  the NAA I  noticed that  on  the WW1 record he claims he lost his Discharge papers in 1920 in America.  So  that adds weight to  the unfortunate story in  the newspapers.

Jenn

[cando]

Another snippet

http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
Argus  Saturday 29th January, 1927

Lister Bradshaw-, of High street St Kilda, was charged with having driven in a dangerous manner at Sorrento on January 18.
Constable Pirrie said : I saw Bradshaw rounding a bend in Back Beach road at a very fast pace, and on the wrong side of the road
Bradshaw was fined £10, with 10/ costs

Cheers
Cando

[cwelli]

Thank you again. This is a different picture to the Lister of 1918/9 that I have through my grandmother's letters written to my grandfather while he was in WW1 in Europe!
His cousins (his father's eldest son's children, by first marriage)lived in California so I wonder if the other misdemeanor has anything to do with one of them.
Carol

[annecaroline]

Hi
Both Lister and Doris are in Eastern Surburbs Cemetery

http://www.esmp.net.au/index.htm

I will PM you details from their death notices.

Regards
Annie

[cando]

http://www.esmp.net.au/files/crem_search.htm

BRADSHAW, Doris Mary     
Cremation date 18Apr 1980     69 years
Location -   Rose Gardens, Garden L7

BRADSHAW, Lister James     
Cremation date 25 Jun 1968     67 years
Location - North Walls, Wall B

If you wish to locate Doris's birth c1911, you will need to make a request for a lookup on births in NSW to 1918.  Births are only online to 1908.

Cheers
Cando