studholme

[Jamjar]

Elizabeth Agnes married Ivan David Cook Scott in 1926

The Annie on the 1901 census is Sarah Annie and she died at the age of 12, Dumfries in 1906. It looks like her birth on FreeBDM - Sarah Annie at Kendal -  December quarter 1893

Mother - Mary Elizabeth nee Knowles died in Dryfesdale aged 56 in 1919

You may know who this is: Elizabeth Studholme, other name McKendry aged 81, died in Bargrennan/ Kirkcudbright, in 1921.

I have daughter Mary's marriage document for you.

I can't see her birth on FreeBDM.

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Umm, just realised that John and Elizabeth were married in December quarter 1893 and that is the same as Sarah Annie's birth.

Also, that means it is highly likely that Mary isn't John's daughter. I have found a birth for a Mary Knowles, in Kendal, in June quarter 1891.

Have Mary's death document for you. She died in 1933 in Applegarth. Her age at death confirms her birth as being in 1891.

So, we have John and Elizabeth in England at the end of 1894 and then a birth in Dumfries in 1895.

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Children of John and Mary:

Mary born 1891 - John's? born England
Sarah Annie  1893             "         "
Arthur William 1895  born Dryfesdale
John James 1897         "          "     
Charles 1899               "          " 
Elizabeth Agnes 1906  "          "

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

HI jonjam,

Have just found your birth, unintentionally. 

Now I understand your monika. 

Some kind Dumfresian, of which there are many, may check for headstones at Dryfesdale cemetery, for you. Photos are always great to include with your records.

Just in case you weren't aware, your grandfather died in 1936 aged 72, in Dryfesdale.

Jamjar

[Wul]

Hi jonjam, Jamjar and ev

In September I have a weeks holiday so I will go over to Dryfesdale cemetery and look for any Studholme monuments, my gggrandfather Archibald Graham is buried there too but no headstone.

A lot of the headstones have weathered badly due to the graveyards hilltop location as I remember.

Wul

[Jamjar]

That would be nice of you, Wul. 

I've been through there a couple of time and have found my ancestors headstones. 

All the names of folk buried there can be found on their office's computer. There was an extremely kind and helpful lady working there, also.

Jamjar

[jonjam]

hi its jonjam again. isee you have been hard at it.to bring a little more light into the picture ihave got info from 1936 as i was 12yrs old and can remember his death and funeral butwas not sutre of the dates until now.under your list of his children only the last four were his children.the other two were not.arthur died approx 1967,j.j. was killed in world war  one. charles in 1975, elizabeth in approx 1985(she was my mother).this is about as much as i know but am not sure of the dates so they must be treated as approx.mary elizabeth nee knowles was i think my grandfathers wife(my grandmother).the part i have no ideas about are the years between staveley(where he was born and his last five years at dryfe bridge which are very hazy.jamjar my email address is:-  * and i look forward to hearing more from you.i have not been in dryfesdale cemetery fo around 20 years but by what you say it must be in a state now,thank you again, will be in touch if i progress any further.

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[Jamjar]

Hi to you

I have sent on the documents.

Do you have proof that Sarah Annie - Annie - wasn't their child. I think she may have been as she is named after John's mother.

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Deaths:

1916 James aged 19

1969 Arthur William aged 74

1986 Elizabeth Agnes - Scott - aged 80

No Charles' death in Scotland.


Others who may, or may not be related.

1953 Mary Elizabeth  aged 64 Dryfesdale and Tundergarth

1961 Margaret - Matthews - aged 63 Graitney or Gretna

1969 Elizabeth M - Greggan - aged 69 Lockerbie

1969 Stanley aged 52 Gretna

1970 Mason aged  70  Gretna

Jamjar