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Re: Alfred Phillips
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 June 12 02:00 BST (UK) »
We also know that Mary Ellen went on to have two other daughters Winifred and Edith May,
Edith born 2nd Dec 1914, - who went to live with Mary Ellens relatives in Gorey - But we know nothing more about their family

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 June 12 14:21 BST (UK) »
We also know that Albert went over to Canada to try to bring Alfie back, but he had been 'signed over' for 5 years - so it is a sad story. We do know that Danny and Albert both passed the story down through their children and grand-children, and both sets of grand-children have been trying to search for a while - and between us all we do have quite a lot of information - so any help that anyone could give us would be great!

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Re: Alfred Phillips
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 June 12 20:54 BST (UK) »
Where is Gorey
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Alfred Phillips
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 June 12 20:59 BST (UK) »
Did Alfred have a middle name

Alfred M May to Dorothy K Allinson
St Anne, Stanley ,Liverpool 1935
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Re: Alfred Phillips
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 16 June 12 13:08 BST (UK) »
 Alfred was always known officially as Alfred (John) Phillips.
The only time he has been known as May, is on the 1911 Census, which was filled in by the head of the house Samuel Thomas May, - we do know that he was Alfred Phillips on his birth certificate, and we have records from the authorities up until 1926 in Canada, where he was known as Alfred Phillips, but we think when he went over to Canada, Samuel may may have signed the paper-work as Alfred May.
So we think that if he married, he would have to have used the surname Phillips. We have a contact in Canada who can find no trace of him after 1927 when he left the farm, so we have wondered did he come back to England at some point. After my grand-dad Daniel died in 1974, we do know that Alfie posted a notice in the Liverpool Echo looking for his siblings. We are not sure if this was from Canada or the UK. The notice was mis-laid so we did not contact him. Albert's family also saw the Echo notice. I was only 9 at the time but I had thought that there was a postal strike on at the time and that is why no reply could be made. I think there was a Canadian postal strike on in that year.
Thank you so much for taking the time out to help.
Gorey is in County Wexford Ireland, and we are pretty sure that the two younger girls went back there.

Regards Jackie

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Re: Alfred Phillips
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 16 June 12 15:07 BST (UK) »
Have you contacted the Echo ,they will possibly have an archive ,even if you have to pay it would be worth the search fee,1974 isnt that  long ago
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 16 June 12 15:24 BST (UK) »
I have been in touch with them and they said we would have to go through all of the copies on a Thursday when those notices went in. Have been in touch with the older family members and they cannot remember how long after my grand-father died that the notice went in - so it could be a few years worth. I seem to remember them being upset because they had missed each other, so I have a feeling it wasn't too much long after - reply from Liverpool records office:
here is no index for the Liverpool Echo so, as you have realised, without an exact date it will be very difficult and time consuming to trace the contact details.  If a member of your family would like to try, I would suggest that they establish which day of the week requests for contact details were published in the Echo and then look in that day for each subsequent week.  The Echo is available on microfilm at the library section in the World Museum in William Brown Street.
 
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Re: Alfred Phillips
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 16 June 12 15:38 BST (UK) »
Post from Inductrial school records: 22nd July 1921
Alfred Phillips,- left for Canada on the SS Minnedosa under the auspices of the Catholic Emigration Society. The boys had a rousing send off and each received a present from the boys and staff.
So the records that we have for an Alfred may sailing in 1923 was wrong.
We have no record of Alfred Phillips sailing over in 1921, but we do have records from over in Canada from the Catholic emmigration society going up to 1926  - a farm near Hemmingford!

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Re: Alfred Phillips
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 16 June 12 17:28 BST (UK) »
Canadian Ocean arrivals
Alfred Phillips
aged 12
scolar
birth place Liverpool
reason for entry ,to engage in Farm work
fare paid for by school authorities
Roman Catholic
destination,the Northern Evangelist ,St George Home,Ottawa
Ship,Minnedosa
sailing third class on the 22.7.1921
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