presbyterian records in Dublin?

[annieoburns]

http://www.findlater.org.uk/Church.htm

This would be nearest presbyterian church in city centre.
 
You could try the Braemor Road church records for church of Ireland?

[aghadowey]

PRONI is only likely to have microfilmed copies of church records from Northern Ireland. You can check their online e-catalogue or look at the guides to church records, etc. on their website www.familysearch.org.

[shanew147]

I just checked the PRONI film catalog, vast majority of Presbyterian films are for Ulster counties but there are a few for Dublin - Clontarf, Lucan and Naas (listed under Dublin but actually Co. Kildare), no sign of Abbey Street though.

I've seen notes that the RCB Library holds some, but have not seen any list of these.


Shane

[aghadowey]

Dublin probably refers to Dublin Presbytery rather than county. This website might help- you can "Find a church near you on a map" and "Find a church from a list by name"- there's also an email address for Presbytery Clerk who might know, or be able to find out, where the church records are now kept.
http://presbytery.ie/

[cliffordcochran]

Looks like the records for Abbey/Findlater's Pres are located in Local Custody only.  I'm hoping corisande will pass on contact information for the church

I believe my family attended the Abbey St Presbyterian Church in the 1820s-1830s.  They were Scottish and apparently that church was called the Scots Church.  Where are the records currently located?  Thanks for your helpful post.

The Presbyterian records do exist (well mainly exist!) but many of the churches have closed.

My g-grandfather was the minister at the Abbey St Presbyterian Church, which is now closed, but I did manage to fine that the records had been transferred to another Presbyterian church which is still operational, and they were kind enough to extract the information that I needed.

You would need to find what was the original Presbyterian church(es) in St Thomas and St George.  If there is a Dublin resident reading this they can give you that information much quicker than I can research it! Then if it is closed email or phone a neighbouring Presbyterian Church to see who held the records.

I should add that 100 years ago in Dublin (and in Scotland) there were various "flavours" of Presbyterianism, as every so often there was a schism on some deep point of principle, and half the congregation would move down the road and set up a new church.

[corisande]

I have replied to that question to you directly as I don't want to put their email here.

I doubt that anyone will get much centrally on Presbyterian records, my feeling is that most Dublin ones are still with the successor churches.

Let me also add something that I was given by a keeper of Presbyterian records:-

However, I had been doing this for quite a while before it dawned on me to explain to enquirers that when a church  moved premises, even though the congregation remained the same, they changed their name i.e. a Presbyterian church is normally known by their location.Therefore, briefly:

1) Bull Alley became Ushers Quay and them became Ormond Quay
Presbyterian Church. 

2) Scots Church originally belonged to the Presbyterian Church in Scotland but joined the Presbyterian Church in Ireland in 1929.

3) D'Olier Street, became Gloucester Street and then Clontarf Presbyterian Church.

Ormond Quay Church & Scots Church merged in 1938 to become Ormond Quay & Scots Presbyterian Church, located in Abbey Street.
In the 1970s OQ&S became a joint charge with Clontarf i.e. two separate churches but one minister.Then in 2003 OQ&S closed and the congregation joined Clontarf.  We then changed our name to Clontarf and Scots Presbyterian Church.

Scots Church was located in Abbey Street as was Abbey Street
Presbyterian Church which was destroyed - along with all their records - in 1916.  The Presbyterian Church on Mountjoy Square, often called Findlater's church because of the association with that family is called Abbey Presbyterian Church.  Why I don't know!!

Note the 2 Presbyterian churches in Abbey St. You need to be sure of the one you are researching. It is the Scots Church that still exists, although not functioning as a church.