Mary Hogg

[janjan]

Hi Lettie,
 i hired a researcher in tasmania and this is the info i recieved,
Mary Hogg
trade... farm servent
Hight...372
Head...large
Hair...gray
eyes...blue
nose...large at end
mouth...large
remarks...face wrinkled scar on left cheek

transportedd
 for murder gaol report bad.single,
they could find no death registered for mary hogg.
ticket to leave jan 1847
enquiry made by ramsay and moll brampton date 13th 1879
single 1 child able to read/ height 5/2 age 67 tried 3rd aug 1841 /life
ramsay and moll request proof of death (1879) indicating the family knew she was dead??
her number given by the home office 39998.

 hope this is of some help

            janjan

[janjan]

just reread your original post think it says irthington north carlisle??
      janjan

[lettie]

Dear JanJan
Thanks so much for your trouble. I think your family records are the real treasure! It is so important to know what happened to Jane. 
lettie

[janjan]

Hi Lettie,
    in john hoggs will(1841) it says he bequests to mary his illegitimate daughter who at this time is my housekeeper and to her heis my freehold estate caller halfway house all bed linen and other household furniture in my house at pateshill ,it also says should mary call on my executors for wages for her services her bequest to be void.the will was written in 1836,janes name isnt on the headstone at irthington.
 in marys brothers will (made in 1849/he died 1852)he leaves halfway house to his son he gives his niece jane five pound per annum from fordlands and five pounds per annum from halfway house but should his sister mary return from abroad and disposes my son william of halfway house it is my will and pleasure that both annuities cease,

it would be intresting to know what happened to jane i will look into it,
       i havent looked at this branch of family for a while
                janice

[lettie]

Hi Janice,
This is fantastic stuff and I will add it all to Mary's file here. Yes it would be good to know what happened to Jane. Mary certainly had incentive not to return from Van Diemens Land if she wanted her daughter cared for!
Thanks so much for looking out the documents.
Kind regards
Lettie

[lettie]

Hi Janice,
It seems Jane's death sentence was commuted to 18 months in prison. After that she seems to have returned to the family. She may be the neice Jane on the 1851 census living with her Uncle John at 'Fordlands'.  It would be good to know what happened to Jane later on.
Mary’s behaviour in the colony was not enough to bring her to the attention of the magistrate. At the time of the October 1846 Muster, Mary was a third class pass holder and in the employ of the Lock family. By 1847 there were over 70 thousand residents in Van Diemen’s Land and Mary was one of the 34% who were convicts.
Holding a third class pass meant that Mary was among the best behaved convicts who cold work for a minimum wage of 7 pounds per annum. She had achieved this status on the 12th of April 1844.  Mary achieved her Ticket of Leave on the 19th of January 1847 having served a portion of her sentence and being well behaved. She could now work for whom she chose, but remained restricted to a certain police district. It was her first step towards freedom.
Lettie

[Saljo]

Better late than never, I am another relative of Mary Hoggs and I'm currently researching the family. Its been really interesting reading your comments. I am looking into the possibility that Jane died still living at Fordlands in 1856 from breast cancer, I cant find any marriage for her and this seems likely though I do still question why she wasn't buried with the rest of the family.
Lettie - if you get this did you ever get any further with Mary Hoggs death certificate?
Thanks
Sally

[lettie]

Hi Sally,
I would be really interested in knowing what was on Jane's death certificate. I suspect she was not buried with the rest of the family due to her crime and her illegitimacy.
Mary Hogg's death certificate stated she was a widow aged 82 and that she died of natural decay on 24 April 1854. Her death was registered by the undertaker Wm Smith of Launceston. He obviously did not know her well, and made assumptions about her marital status and age. She was not quite that age, but may have looked it. As this is the only death for a Mary Hogg of roughly the right age, I think it is fair to assume it is our Mary. There is no evidence she left the colony.  What a sad story.
cheers,
Lettie

[clearly]

Sally,
Just an observation but the fact that Jane is not on the gravestone does not necessarily mean that she was not buried in the grave. It might be that the relatives just never got round to putting the inscription on the stone. One or two burial registers do have marks in the margin denoting which plot a person was buried in or the parish clerk may have kept a plan.