Where is Holms (Holmes) Farm, parish of Avondale?

[Bathonian]

Hi, this one came from out of the blue. Getting stuck, I'd moved on to other members of the families.  But now that I've been drawn back, I'm hoping that some good soul can help me with any information on John Craig's (bc.1700) parents and the parents of his wife, Agnes Campbell. My wife's family came down through their daughter Agnes (b1737) who married William Meikle (b9 Dec 1733) on 2 June 1765 in Avondale. Any information would be appreciated.
Regards
Ken Rees

[John S Craig]

Hi my name is John Craig and I am a direct descendant of the Craig`s of Holms Farm at Drumclog and was the last in line to the Farm but unfortunately did not continue with the farm it is now however owned by the Watson family, Jim Watson married my Aunt who was a Craig, Peelhill Farm and the Holms were owned by three brothers Jim Craig, Robert and my father William there are a further 10 brother and sisters 3 of which have passed away including my father, I do have an e mail address from a third party who has extensively researched his family which included my own. Descendants of John Craig read bellow for the info I received, If you send me an E mail to the following address I can forward the full attachment some of which is bellow. ^(*)
 
 
Generation No. 1
 
1.  JOHN1 CRAIG was born Abt. 1700 in Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  He married AGNES CAMPBELL Jun 1723 in Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  She was born Abt. 1700 in Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
 
More About JOHN CRAIG:
Occupation: Farmer Holms of Avondale
       
Children of JOHN CRAIG and AGNES CAMPBELL are:
                   i.       ISOBELL2 CRAIG, b. 18 Jul 1725, Holms of Glengavel, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
                  ii.       ELIZABETH CRAIG, b. 08 Oct 1731, Holms of Glengavel, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
2.              iii.       ROBERT CRAIG, b. 25 Dec 1734, Holms of Glengavel, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 1794, Holms of Glengavel, Near Dungavel, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
                 iv.       AGNES CRAIG, b. 31 Mar 1737, Holms of Glengavel, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
 
 
Generation No. 2
 
2.  ROBERT2 CRAIG (JOHN1) was born 25 Dec 1734 in Holms of Glengavel, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland1, and died 1794 in Holms of Glengavel, Near Dungavel, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland2.  He married AGNES DUNN 11 Aug 1771 in Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland, daughter of JAMES DUN and JANET THOMSON.  She was born 29 Oct 1741 in Midlembank, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
 
(*) Moderator Comment: e-mail removed in accordance with RootsChat policy, to avoid spamming and other abuses.
Please use the Personal Message (PM) system for exchanging personal data.

New members must make at least three postings before being allowed to use the PM facility.
See Help-Page:  http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

[Jassy]

Hello John

I tried to send my email address in a PM,but your inbox is full,you can
see all your private messages at top of page after you sign in.

Janet

[tidybooks]

Hi Jassy,

That is the message when you try and PM someone who has not made 3 posts, if John can make another 2 posts, you will then be able to PM him.

Tom

[John S Craig]

Hi I am John Craig as per my previous posts, not yo sure how this all works yet but will muddle through, Re Janet Burt message I have Robbie has been in touch many years ago and he has kindly given me all the info he has thanks, don`t know if he has any more. I will need to find out how to reply??

[John S Craig]

If anyone needs the copy of the info I have just drop me an E mail and I will attach any info on a return E mail.(*)

^(*)

(*) Moderator Comment: e-mail removed in accordance with RootsChat policy,
to avoid spamming and other abuses.
Please use the Personal Message (PM) system for exchanging personal data.

See Help-Page:  http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

[wilitgo1]

James Craig who married Cecilia Craig is not the son of James Craig and Jean Fleming but is the son of James Craig a Shipwright and Christian Miller. Thus mcvicar you are not descended from the Craigs of Holms which is my family. As you must have the marriage certificate of 1873 you must have known that the  connection to the Craig of Holms was incorrect. As my information has been published in many websites for years (without my permission) is it  easier to download my family history rather than actually doing some research and finding your own family history which may be more interesting than mine?.

[wilitgo1]

Forget Holms farm. To sound more positive here are your ancestors. According to his marriage certificate James Craig was the son of James Craig and Christina Miller. James senior was a ship wright and was born in Greenock Renfrewshire on 28 April 1815 to William Craig and Isabella MacIntosh.
James senior remarried Mary Buchanan in 1854 after the death of Christina Miller (betw 1851-1854)
Here are some census records which may interest you.
Greenock rather than Avondale is your ancestral home. All the best Robbie

1841 census Barony, Lanarkshire
Address:Partick
Old Bridore End
James Craig  26 Ship Carpenter J born Lanarkshire No
Christina Craig  25 born Lanarkshire No
Isabella Craig  3 born Lanarkshire No   ***** see below
William Craig  1 born Lanarkshire Yes
John Craig 1 born Lanarkshire Yes
Ann Yuille  10 born Lanarkshire No

1851 census Partick, Govan, Lanarkshire
Address:Castlewalk St Mathews
Christina Craig Head 33 born Glasgow, Lanark
Isabella Craig Daughter 12 Scholar born Greenock, Renfrew
William Craig Son 10 Scholar born Partick, Lanark
John Craig Son 7 Scholar born Partick, Lanark
Mary Craig  5 Scholar born Partick, Lanark
Charles Kerr Lodger 25 Ship Carpenter, Journeyman born Glasgow, Lanark
ED:9D  Page:34   Household schedule number:117   Line:1    Roll:CSSCT1851_167

1861 census Partick, Govan, Lanarkshire
Address:155 Dumbarton Rod
James Craig Head Mar 46 Spirit Merchant born Greenock, Renfrewshire
Mary Craig  45 born Inchman, Renfrewshire
William Craig Son Unm 21 Ship Carpenter born Kelmhaugh, Lanarkshire
John Craig Son Unm 17 Ship South (app) born Partick, Lanarkshire
Mary Craig Daughter 15  born Partick, Lanarkshire
James Craig Son 9 Scholar born Partick, Lanarkshire
Jessie Craig Daughter 7 Scholar born Partick, Lanarkshire
Mary Buchanan Niece Unm 21 Domestic Servant born Partick, Lanarkshire
ED:2   Household schedule number:204   Line:7    Roll:CSSCT1861_114

1871 census Partick, Govan, Lanarkshire
Address:3 Graham St
Thomas Muir Head Mar 30 Iron Ship Builder born Glasgow, Lanark
Mary Muir Wife Mar 25 born Partick, Lanark
May Muir Daughter 5 born England
James Craig Brother-in-law Unm 19 Blacksmith born Partick, Lanark
ED:9    Household schedule number:138    Line:6    Roll:CSSCT1871_144

Marriage James Craig and Mary Buchanan      11 Aug 1854     Govan,Lanark,Scotland 

James Craig
birth:28 April 1815
christening:4 May 1815
MIDDLE OR NEW PARISH, GREENOCK, RENFREW, SCOTLAND
father:William Craig
mother:Isabella Macintosh

***** Isabella Mcintosh Craig     
 Gender     Female     
 Christening Place     EAST PARISH, GREENOCK, RENFREW, SCOTLAND     
 Birth Date     06 Jul 1837     
 Birthplace     East Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland     
 Father's Name     James Craig     
 Mother's Name    Christina Miller

[Forfarian]

Surprised no-one has posted this http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&lat=55.6191&lon=-4.1523&layers=5 to answer the original question.

Or this, which shows it on a modern map. http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS6437