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Reginald Courtney RUSSELL - immigration
« on: Wednesday 15 July 09 13:39 BST (UK) »
Am desperate for some help here with Reginald, dosn't seem to exist before his marriage in 1929.
What I have is
Apparently arrived in Australia from England in 1925, Married Effie Pomfret in 1929 at Christ Church Cathedral, Newcastle, NSW . Certificate states he is a press photographer.. Gives his birth as 1902 England. parents as Charles Edward Russell, Carpenter & Georgina Mary Smith.
Could anyone possibly have a look to see when and where  he came from  for me please.
Cheers
Peaches
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HODDOM: Scott, Cunningham, Calvert
LOCHMABEN/CAERLAVEROCK:Tweedie, LOCHMABEN:Learmont, Telfer, Pattie, Scott, Walker, Jamieson
KIRKCUDBRIGH:Beattie, Bryden, McLauchlen,      Douglas
DUMFRIES:Carruthers, Gibson, Bell
AYRSHIRE:Bryden, Murdoch
KIRKMAHOE:Corbet,
ORKNEY:Chalmers/Chambers, Tait,
MOFFAT:Halliday
DALBEATTIE:Fergusson,

SUSSEX: West,
TYNEMOUTH:Chambers/Chalmers, Liddell, Hallowell,
HULL/NORTHUMBERLAND:Wouldhave, Whatley, Arkell, Hallowell

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Re: Reginald Courtney RUSSELL - immigration
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 14:24 BST (UK) »
This could be his family on the 1901 Census living at 71 Shrewsbury Street, Stretford, Lancs    RG15/3666/67/27

RUSSELL Charles Edward  49 Mercantile Clerk  B. Staffs.
RUSSELL Georgina  28               b. Lancs, Liverpool
RUSSELL Charles A  6                b. Cheshire,  Ashton
RUSSELL Reginald M 5               b. Cheshire, Ashton
RUSSELL Rowland B  3              b. Cheshire, Ashton
RUSSELL Dorothy R   1               b. Cheshire, Ashton


This is the only Charles Edward RUSSELL marriage I can find with wife Georgina on
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Marriages Sep 1894   
RUSSELL     Charles Edward   Manchester 8d/321    
SARGEANT  Georgina      Manchester 8d/321   

A look at the family on the 1911 census would certainly help you.  I don't have access to the 1911 census.

Cheers
Cando

 

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Re: Reginald Courtney RUSSELL - immigration
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 14:38 BST (UK) »
Australian Electoral Rolls
1930
RUSSELL Effie 13 Green Road, Glenmore  HD
RUSSELL Reginald  13 Green Road, Glenmore Journalist

1936
RUSSELL Effie  13 Greens Road, Glenmore  HD
RUSSELL Reginald Courtney  13 Greens Road, Glenmore  Journalist.

Is his year of birth the same on the marriage cert and death cert.

28068/1956     
RUSSELL  Reginald Courteney
53 Years      Darlinghurst
District Sydney

You could search in findmypast.com for his passenger record.  You can search for free but need to either subscribe to the website or purchase credits to view the full passenger record.

Cheers
Cando    
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Re: Reginald Courtney RUSSELL - immigration
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 14:58 BST (UK) »
I only have access to the index for 1911
The family appears to be in Prestwich, Lancs in 1911.

I assume you have later information?
Ryerson's index shows a death notice 8 Dec 1956 for Reginald Courtenay RUSSELL with death date 4 Dec

Judith

DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Reginald Courtney RUSSELL - immigration
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 15:20 BST (UK) »
National Archives site shows a Reginald Courtenay RUSSELL served in WW2, NOK Effie RUSSELL, born London 25 June 1904; enlisted Sydney.
You can request a copy of this file.

Search by clicking on the NameSearch section (at the bottom of the page near the photo of the man)

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Free BMD has a birth of a Reginald RUSSELL reg Lambeth June qr 1904

Judith

DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Reginald Courtney RUSSELL - immigration
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 July 09 01:19 BST (UK) »
Oh you guys are so fantastic, have been searching for years and just couldn't put it together.
Marriage cert has him aged 27 in 1929 so making his birth year 1902. Showing parents as Charles Russell, carpenter dec & Georgina Mary Smith dec
Death Cert in 1956 makes his birth year 1903. unfortunately it dosn't show parents name on that.
Had a fresh look at the marriage cert and it does say London England, I had no idea that he served in the war so a new avenue to look at now.
YAY judb & cando
great work, it pays to get the help of an extra set of eyes       ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for taking the time to do the look ups, much appreciated
Cheers
peaches
Sorry my email address is not working
HODDOM: Scott, Cunningham, Calvert
LOCHMABEN/CAERLAVEROCK:Tweedie, LOCHMABEN:Learmont, Telfer, Pattie, Scott, Walker, Jamieson
KIRKCUDBRIGH:Beattie, Bryden, McLauchlen,      Douglas
DUMFRIES:Carruthers, Gibson, Bell
AYRSHIRE:Bryden, Murdoch
KIRKMAHOE:Corbet,
ORKNEY:Chalmers/Chambers, Tait,
MOFFAT:Halliday
DALBEATTIE:Fergusson,

SUSSEX: West,
TYNEMOUTH:Chambers/Chalmers, Liddell, Hallowell,
HULL/NORTHUMBERLAND:Wouldhave, Whatley, Arkell, Hallowell

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Re: Reginald Courtney RUSSELL - immigration
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 July 09 01:45 BST (UK) »
I wonder if Reginald M shown on the census had died and your Reginald was named after him.  Parents tended to do that years ago.   Of course it may not be his family on the census as they were still in Lancashire in 1911. 

If you wished you could purchase his birth cert
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

If you didn't wish to purchase his service record there is a little more info on him at...rank at discharge and unit etc.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/

Cheers
Cando
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Re: Reginald Courtney RUSSELL - immigration
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 July 09 02:57 BST (UK) »
Reginald M does show on the 1911 census as 15 yrs in Lancs also a Constance Georgina b. 1905. parents Charles & Georgina
I don't have access to the 1911 but, I have a feeling that this is not the family, I'm sure they wouldn't name two boys the same especially if one is still alive.
Reginald C noted his father as a carpenter, Effies father was also a carpenter.
There is a Charles Russell in the 1901 census who is a married lodger in Dorset who's occupation is a carpenter, but how does one find the rest of the family?????
Cheers
Peaches
Sorry my email address is not working
HODDOM: Scott, Cunningham, Calvert
LOCHMABEN/CAERLAVEROCK:Tweedie, LOCHMABEN:Learmont, Telfer, Pattie, Scott, Walker, Jamieson
KIRKCUDBRIGH:Beattie, Bryden, McLauchlen,      Douglas
DUMFRIES:Carruthers, Gibson, Bell
AYRSHIRE:Bryden, Murdoch
KIRKMAHOE:Corbet,
ORKNEY:Chalmers/Chambers, Tait,
MOFFAT:Halliday
DALBEATTIE:Fergusson,

SUSSEX: West,
TYNEMOUTH:Chambers/Chalmers, Liddell, Hallowell,
HULL/NORTHUMBERLAND:Wouldhave, Whatley, Arkell, Hallowell

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Re: Reginald Courtney RUSSELL - immigration
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 July 09 04:25 BST (UK) »
Yes I also had my doubts when the family were still in Lancashire in 1911.

I found when doing my research in the UK and couldn't find family on the census I really had no choice but to purchase some certificates.  Unfortunately there is nowhere near the information on the UK certificates as some of the Australian ones.

Really can't progress until you know the correct parents names or can find their marriage with the names as given on Reginald's marriage cert.  The names may not be correct on Reginald's marriage cert.
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

The parents marriage may have taken place post the 1901 census.

Cheers
Cando
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