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Re: A clean and Date for my Butchers please
« Reply #45 on: Monday 13 July 09 00:22 BST (UK) »
Oooh Paula,
 
I envy you your wonderful eyes!
Thank you for that kind explanation!

Our point of disagreement is that building, to me it is a stage set to you it is real!  

Thanks for the clarification! Will be thinking straight I hope in the morning!

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Re: A clean and Date for my Butchers please
« Reply #46 on: Monday 13 July 09 02:05 BST (UK) »
It's a real building...there were buildings like that in pioneering times. Through the window on the right, you can see another window. The second window would be on the side of the building.

There's some hanging stuff visible through the window too, inside the building.

Here's a lovely sod house, and a bit further down a tar paper shack.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/06p2/

Here's another, and this one was photographed in 1938.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/06p3/

And another...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/06p4/

The snow looks natural to me. When you "chuck" snow, it looks like it was chucked there. This looks like there has been some attempt at clearing it a bit, and all three men have snow on their shoes.

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China



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Re: A clean and Date for my Butchers please
« Reply #47 on: Monday 13 July 09 08:12 BST (UK) »
Well, what can I say?

Some tremendous restoration work as always. - Maggie you've done a fantastic job - well done! Paula Too - That's a really beautiful colour job, just perfect.

As for the various stabs at what, where and why. These are my thoughts...although I must say that you've all really got me wondering as whether you might be onto something.

I think the building and setting just has to be real. I've always thought it was an outhouse of some sort. I agree that there are some strange looking inconsistencies, and the lighting is a little weird, (I'm no expert, but I think it may have been taken late afternoon or early morning). The fence/bush area is strange, but the more I look at it, the more I think that that 'bush' may actually be a stain, blemish, or something else entirely.

As for whether they are butchers or not, I really think we don't have enough to go on to make a decision one way or another.  The instrument is a very strange addition. I must confess that I originally thought it was a shovel! The various knives could easily be used by a butcher, or a chef or anyone else that needed to cut something, so no real clues there. Remember that a hundred years ago there wasn't the huge range of implements available to all and sundry that there is now. All I know is that my Great grandfather back to my GGG Grandfather where all butchers - and I don't eat meat! I've been in contact with the Worshipful Company of butchers to see if they can help - but no reply yet.
 
I'm going to see if  I can be sent a scan of the back to see if that helps -

A massive thanks once again to you all - this picture seems to have caused quite a lot of interest, which is after all what the whole genealogy game is about - picking the wheat from the chaff.

Jules

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Re: A clean and Date for my Butchers please
« Reply #48 on: Monday 13 July 09 08:14 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

what a great pic!  Hasn't anyone noticed the horses's head in the right hand "window" ??  That puts a whole new slant on it!!

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Re: A clean and Date for my Butchers please
« Reply #49 on: Monday 13 July 09 08:22 BST (UK) »
Blimey!!!

Also, are we absolutely sure about the date? I thought it may be a little earlier.

Jules

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Re: A clean and Date for my Butchers please
« Reply #50 on: Monday 13 July 09 09:28 BST (UK) »
Oh my goodnesss, I think parkywinter is right,  there COULD be a horse's head !!  It's looking out of through China's side window, or perhaps it's a stable door with the top half open.  It's ear slightly bent towards the camera presumably listening to the action outside.  After yet another look at the 'tree' and I think I agree with Jules that it might be a stain - on magnification the tree trunk looks wrong.

Jules - thanks for your kind words and also for posting this picture as it has certainly got me going on restoration!!

Maggie
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Re: A clean and Date for my Butchers please
« Reply #51 on: Monday 13 July 09 13:25 BST (UK) »
Brilliant picture, brilliant thread, Jules, happy to have been a part of it.
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Re: A clean and Date for my Butchers please
« Reply #52 on: Monday 13 July 09 23:00 BST (UK) »
Fascinating, picture and thread.  Not sure about the horses head though, looks like a sack that has been hung across the window to me.

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Re: A clean and Date for my Butchers please
« Reply #53 on: Monday 13 July 09 23:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,

It was fun while it lasted! Thanks for posting this fascinating picture Jules,  As Paula says, happy to be a part of it   ;)


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