O'Connor family from the meeting of the waters avoca.

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My Grandfather was Michael O'Connor originally from Avoca. I never met him. He moved to Glenyards, Bonnybridge Stirlingshire, where he married Elizabeth Lawless and where they had six children. If anyone has any information about the O'Connors or the Lawless family, I would love to hear from you. My Grandfather was probably born in the 1890s

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Hi....Have just came across your post...I think the Elizabeth Lawless is a sister of my Grandfather Patrick Lawless of Tinahely, Co. Wicklow. I can provide information on that side of the family. Would it be possible for you to provide what you have about your direct family too as all I have on Elizabeths leg of the family is that she was born in 1902 and had a son matthew..born 1930. Hope you can help and ill give you all i have.
Best wishes,
Tom.

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Hi..a further update that might help.
I have found a Michael J O'Connor in Avoca in the 1911 census.
He was a member clerk for the Royal Irish Constabulary and had been born in Wexford.
It states that, at that point, he was single
Hope this might help.
Regards,
Tom.

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Hi Tom, thank you for your information.  I think that the Michael J O'Connor that you found on the census might be my grandad as on my mothers birth certificate her father was described as a clerk. I will have to have a look at the census and try to find out more info. My grandmother Elizabeth Lawless however did not to my knowledge have a son called Matthew, her children were: Betty, Walter, Mary, Anne, John and Michael born in quick succession and to my knowledge there were no more children. Anne was my mother. They were all born in Bonnybridge Stirlingshire as Michael, my grandad met her when he came to Scotland.  However Lawless is an unusual name so there more than likely may be some connection. Thanks a million for contacting me and if you uncover anything else please get in touch and I will do likewise.
Liz.

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Liz,
Thanks for your reply...hope I helped a little....as to the Lawless connection...we probably are related..but...way back when.
Best wishes,
Tom.

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Hi Tom, following on from that message I just sent ,more on  the children of Michael O'Connor and Elizabeth Lawless . Betty was a nurse, moved to South Africa  and married a Turner. Walter was killed in the second world war he was in the RAF and was shot down, as was his young brother Michael, Mary was a teacher in Glasgow and married Jan Jedrzetski just after the 2nd world war,no children. They both died in the 1970s as did Elizabeth O'Connor nee Lawless.
Anne(my mother)married George Winn in Oldham but died in 1993, she had me in 1946 and another daughter Veronica who died as an infant.  John was a dentist, I don't know whether he is alive or not, he had a son John who was born in the 1950s. I am remembering that Elizabeth Lawless did have at least one brother and at least one sister but do not know what their names were.
Look forward to hearing from you again.
Liz.

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Hi Liz,
Thank you for the update.
A question that might help in proving if there might be a direct connection a little closer to our day.......do you know where Elizabeth Lawless was from...the Elizabeth in my family came from Tinahely, Wicklow.
Best wishes,
Tom.

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Sorry Tom, I do not know where she was from originally, I would love to find out more about them, also I cannot find the census entry you told me about for Michael, I must be looking on the wrong site, did you look on a specific site.
I looked up the 1922 census for Bonnybridge, Stirlingshire just now and found them. At that point they had 4 children. I think that I got that on the st. Josephs parish site, I also looked up the wedding records on that site from 1911 - 1919 but they obviously didn't get married there. I will keep trying though.

Liz

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Liz,
A pity you dont know where she was from...maybe sometinme we will find out.
The census data can be found on the following site:

www.census.nationalarchives.ie

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,
Tom.