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[Lucy2]

Hi John

Just to rule out at least one of the births given previously...

NZ Death Index

ATTWOOD - Louisa Hendin - died 1911 - aged 41 years


Lu

[Lucy2]

Annie Louisa ATTWOOD 1872
Reg 1872/1272
No parents names or district reg is shown

Annie Louisa ATTWOOD b. 1872 can also be ruled out.

[Married in NZ - (1)  MALLERSTATT  (2)  WILSON  - she died in NZ 1937]

Lu

[johnat]

Yeah, Lu.
As I said originally, I was trying to follow a lead that may turn out to be a red herring.

It certainly seems that way from all the research that I managed to find, and from all the messages here. Thanks so much to all, for their efforts.

Cheers
John

[johnat]

Just to add to the confusiojn, I have another source showing a "Edith Ada" Attwood born about 1874 in Timaru. However, that does not seem to match anything I have been able to find in BDM records.

Damn, this stuff can be frustrating!

Cheers
John

[Lucy2]

....   I have another source showing a "Edith Ada" Attwood born about 1874 in Timaru. However, that does not seem to match anything I have been able to find in BDM records.

Hi John

You're right  ... she doesn't appear to be registered on the NZ Birth index, and I've also searched using the variety of names you gave for her mother's maiden name.

*   Do you have a marriage or death certificate for her which shows Timaru as her birthplace ??

[Am presuming she is the Edith A. ATTWOOD who married James A. BEACROFT NSW - 1892 :   Died as Edith Ada BEACROFT - 1960 ?]

Lu

[johnat]

Lu,
You presume correctly, she is the one who married Beacroft.

However, there's no record of her birth in 1870-79 in Aus. If she was, actually born in NZ, I'd have expected her birth to have been between 1869 and 1871, the years after leaving England for NZ and leaving NZ for Aus.

No certificate that I have seen. That's why I'm asking around. I have "fairly reliable" notes from the daughter of one of her siblings, but I'd far rather have some more definite 'documentation'.

Just did another search of NZ BDM with dates ranging 1868 - 1874 - results following ...
1868/483   Attwood    Alice Mary   
1868/484   Attwood    Ellen Elizabeth
1868/485   Attwood    Henry William
1868/486   Attwood    Julia Louisa
1869/685   Attwood    Louisa Henden
1869/686   Attwood    William Burgess
1870/762   Attwood    Ellen Maria
1870/763   Attwood    Emma Jemima
1870/764   Attwood    Esther Eleanor
1871/947   Attwood    George
1871/948   Attwood    Lily Marshall
1871/949   Attwood    George Frederick Thomas
1872/409   Attwood    Arthur
1872/1272   Attwood    Annie Louisa
1872/1274   Attwood    Walter Newman
1874/1124   Attwood    Robert

None of them match.  Got me confused, well and truly!

[Lucy2]

No certificate that I have seen. That's why I'm asking around. I have "fairly reliable" notes from the daughter of one of her siblings, but I'd far rather have some more definite 'documentation'.

John

I'm well aware of why you're searching the birth indexes in Aus and NZ but it's very apparent that this Edith Ada ATTWOOD is not listed in New Zealand.   

Yes, of course genealogy / family history, is frustrating  ... and it's probably more so when you just rely on "fairly reliable notes".   You can't possibly know whether they're "reliable", until you've tested them against the "facts" ... and that means venturing into purchasing official BDM records.

So with there being no "apparent" birth record in Aus or NZ for either of the ATTWOOD daughters, you need to take a another tack.     Perhaps purchase the record of their mother's death (1885 was it ?).    That should allow you to at least confirm her maiden name, where and when she was married to William ATTWOOD, years spent in NSW (not sure if "years in other places" is included on NSW death certs? ) ... names of her children, and their ages at the time of her death.      (Suggest you use one of the transcription agents - see NSW BMD site - it's a cheaper and quicker option).

There's no guarantee of course that Jane's death record will help you find her daughter's birth records - perhaps it's a case of the parents simply not registering them ... but it should provide you with other useful information.

Good luck.   

Lu

[Thamesite2017]

The not registered is a real possibility, not the easiest of times
also variants
1874/1125 Atwood  Anne Atwood 
(5 Mar 1874, based on certificate collection info born Blenheim)
plus other combinations possible

Maybe the person with the info was mixed up with an earlier Edith Attwood
schhol records Dunedin
Birthdate
17 Mar 1863
(NZSG index CD)

BYe
Althea

[johnat]

Lu & Althea,

thanks for your input. I am in the process of doing exactly what you suggest, Lu. I have certificates on order (the 3 week wait to process them is a pain) for all manner of events registered in NSW.

The dates I've been given for the birth of Edith just do not match anything else I've got.

IF Edith was born in 1874, then the family must have moved to Aus before her birth.

Memoirs of my G-Grandfather put their departure from Timaru at 1871. He'd have been 9 or so at that time. Their departure from England was 1869. No records on passenger lists, just the memoirs as yet.

I have a copy of a typed transcript from his notes - yet to see the original, but hope to do so sometime later this year when I visit the custodian.

Frustrating? Yep, but the main frustration is in the lag time between finding what "might" be an important souirce and its arrival.

I really do appreciate the chance to verbalise these things here, as the act of typing something challenges the sequence I hold in my brain (such as it is  ) and forces me to the records rather than my (quite faulty, at times) memory.

Cheers
John