Armitages from Ireland to Canada

[KaParcero]

Kenvic, I'd love to be in direct contact and know more about how you connect to the Armitages in Tipperary. My maiden name is Armitage.
Yesterday, I mentioned Richard Armitage, who had a daughter Jane (b abt. 1815, d. 1877). She married Richard Mason in 1833 in Killaloe Diocese, Co. Tipperary, and they arrived in Australia in 1842.

[Kenvic]

Hi.  Yes it took some time, abt. 20 years, and built up slowly as more and more 'Armitage' revealed themselves. It is impossible to know if we are connected in any way.  What is interesting that your family line has kept the name Armitage.  Ours has moved sideways so many times I doubt that there is much of their dna left.  The other bit of interest is that my family is also Aussie (Qld.) although I have not lived there for many years.  If you look undfer the header for my 'tree' at the top (in red) you will see where the info. came from.  You can also add 'The National Archives Ireland' to that list.  Lots of good stuff if you know how to navigate your way around these sites.  If you get stuck post here again and I will send you a PM.  Best of luck, kenvic

[Kenvic]

KaParcero.  Hi again.  I am a bit confused.  I see in a much earlier post you are in U.S.A.  Now you mention Aust.  Which is which?  It is a very mobile world.   kenvic

[KaParcero]

I am in the US. My 3x ggrandfather, John Armitage, settled in western New York state(a very rural area) before 1820. In 1859, Richard Armitage and some of his children (Jane's siblings) came to New York to live with John and they are listed in the 1860 Federal Census. One of Richard's sons was William, who married Anna Maria Thorp and ended up in Illinois(you have him in your information with a different father).
I live very close to where my John settled.
I have been to Cloughjordan, Tipperary and met 2 Armitage descendants there. They shared some very large family tree sheets that show their descent from the "Big" Armitage siblings, children of John and Mary (?) Armitage. John was son of Joseph (Garrane) and Ann (Lewis ?) Armitage.
My goal is to figure out who are parents of my John, born about 1787 and RIchard, born about 1784.

[KaParcero]

The above should read that Richard(b. 1784) and several children arrived in New York in 1849 (not 1859). They are listed in the household of John and Fanny Armitage, in Galen, Wayne County, New York in the 1850 US Federal Census.

[Maggsie]

Hi,   See this link......below....a John Armitage married a Frances Armitage this was her maiden name.
Is this who you are looking for?
It doesn't say where they were both from or their parents.
Killaloe as a Diocese covers a large area, Ossory as a Diocese is the next one to Killaloe.
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/dm/results.jsp?diocese_name=&surname=armitage&firstname=john&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&spouse_last_name=&spouse_first_name=&search=Search
This next link is before their marriage in 1826 this is 1823 or just before as it doesn't show a date.
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=armitage&firstname=&county=Tipperary&parish=&townland=&search=Search

I know you said you have been to Cloughjordan, have you seen this link?
http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/tipperary/modrneey/index.htm
I often visit this graveyard when I am in Ireland.
Maggsie

[KaParcero]

My 3x ggrandfather, John Armitage, bought land in western New York state in 1816 and in the 1820 US Federal Census there are several children listed. At least 2 of the children are his sons, Joseph, born 1818 and John B. born 1820. There is a passenger list to New York City in 1811 that lists a John Armitage, from Tipperary. I can't be sure this is my John, but if it is, then he married Fanny in New York, either in Ulster of Washington County. One record shows Joseph born in Washington County.
So, my John can't be the one listed in your link. There are just too many Johns and Frances/Fannys to sort them out.
Thanks for your reply ant the inks.
KaParcero

[Kenvic]

Maggsie.  Thank you for your interest.  I love Internment as usually it sorts out the nitty gritty of which William or Which Frannie etc so often.  Sadly this time there does seem to be a problem. Firstly there does seem to have been at least three and maybe four John & Frances (Fanny / Frannie) Armitage.  I have the deaths of John of Uskane house and Fanny in 1845/1851 not 1945/51.  This is the couple who married in 1826.  Or maybe not. All is not as clear as it may seem.  Roots and Ancestry appear to have the children from at least two of the families hopelessly mixed.  One couple went to the U.S. another stayed home.  I guess if we did deep enough we will sort it especially with help from others like you.  I once lived in Ireland, way, way back and while my family is mainly from Offaly I have visited Cloughjordan.  I like it a lot.  Cheers, kenvic

[KaParcero]

Since our Armitages went from England/Yorkshire to settle in Ireland in the 1600s, you might be interested in the following blog about Landed Families. The link below is to a list of the family bios. Look for both Armitage and Armytage. There are several articles about them.
https://landedfamilies.blogspot.com/p/list-of-families.html