Liverpool Parish Church c.1858

[Flickgirl]

Hi Everyone,

I have an 1858 marriage entry which states: "Solemnized at the parish church, parish of Liverpool, county of Lancaster."  The marriage took place in the district of West Derby.  I've searched online and found the Parish Church of Liverpool is called "The Church of Our Lady and St Nicholas" but I was just wondering what exactly this phrase means and if that church would have been the one it refers to?  Does it mean this is where they were married or is it similar to the Scottish "According to the banns of.." Thanks for any help (Scottish records are much more my forte!)

Regards

Michelle

[mosiefish]

Hi Michelle,

Try www.lancashirebmd.org.uk and see if they are listed as it should give the name of the church if it was a Church of England marriage.  This is an ongoing project so not all records are listed as yet.  But I think in that time frame they are. 

Regards,
Mo

[Flickgirl]

Hi Mo,

Thanks for the help; Lancashire BMD says it was at Liverpool, St Peter.  The couple were living in Finch Street at the time but I haven't managed to find that on a map either.  Thanks.

Regards

Michelle

[mosiefish]

Hi,

Finch Street is no longer there but Gildart Street, Falkland Street and Stafford Street are.  For an old map try:
http://www.leverpoole.co.uk/hackney-1855.shtm

Choose the fourth square from the left in the middle row.  The go to the bottom right of the map.  You should see the above mentioned streets with Finch Street running through them, parallel to Upper Islington.

Regards,
Mo

[km1971]

Finch Street was renamed probably to Kempston Street in the early 1860s. It ran from Norton Street to Moss Street.

The Liverpool (London Road) plan from Alan Godfrey gives a good view of the houses and courts - http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/liv25.htm

As Michelle says, St Peters was the parish church at the time.

Ken

[Flickgirl]

Hi Mo & Ken,

Thanks a lot for the information and maps; it looks like it was right in the centre of town then.  I hadn't expected that since their marriage is registered as West Derby (did the West Derby area cover the centre in the 1850s as well as I had thought if it was central it was the registration district of Liverpool?)  Also the family lived in Kirkdale and Bootle on later censuses so I thought they may have married further north - you learn something new and all that!

St Peters was the parish church at the time.

Ken

Since the marriage was central it would seem they would have married at St Peter's then; did all marriages have to take place in the "Parish" Church in England or did "solemnized at the parish church" just mean the marriage was approved by or read out at the Parish Church?  If the former you would think a Parish Church in a city centre like Liverpool would have been overran!  Thanks again for the help.

Regards

Michelle

[cassandra123]

St Peters Parish Church was in Church Street, where Woolworths used to be followed by the huge HMV stores and now where the entrance to Liverpool One arcades are.  there is a memorial plaque in the pavement.

[km1971]

Hi Michelle

West Derby registration district (for BMDs) covered everywhere but the centre. So I am surprised about the St Peters and West Derby information.



The separate shaded area to the south of the centre is Toxteth Park, which became a district in its own right in 1881.

If the marriage certificates says it took place in the parish church it would be St Peters. If you don't have the certificate you should buy it. You should also post the name of the vicar.

Can you say where your 'marriage entry' is from?

Ken

[cassandra123]

There was also the areas within the West Derby Hundred.