Stumped any help

[Evie]

Hi

Joseph married Mary Q1 1897, Birmingham 6d 149

Evie

[groom]

This looks like Catherine's birth:

Catherine Foden 3rd quarter 1905 Birmingham 6d 102

SO-- Joseph must be on the scene somewhere 

Jan

[Evie]

I wonder what his occupation was?

[janan]

He seems to be with Catherine and Mary in 1911 but still can't see him in 91 or 01 - very odd. Working away somewhere maybe?

Jan

[GRACELANDS]

   Well  a big thank you everyone for your help.

 I think I can say that Joseph Foden the father of my grandmother who I knew nothing about was born to Joseph and  Phoebe and that Phoebe died in 1886 aged 52 & I believe that Joseph was married before this as he had a son Walter and was  a widower on the  1861 census.
 
From here I think I need to find the death of Josephs first wife somewhere between approx 1854 and 1861 when Joseph is named as a Widower or find Walters birth certificate.

I obviously will need the marriage of Joseph and his second wife Phoebe.

I would not have this information if it was not for all your help .

So once again thanks

Gracelands

[janan]

Hi Gracelands

I can't see an obvious first marriage for Joseph - can you?

This looks like Walter's birth though in case you haven't already found it

Walter Foden Jan qtr 1853 Birmingham Vol6d Pg154

Glad things are coming together

Jan

[DEVIS]

Hi,
Could this be Walter`s bapt on line IGI ?

Walter Henry FODEN brn: 19 Dec 1852, bpt: 31 Dec 1854, St Georges, Brum.

Parents: Joseph & Mary Ann FODEN.

Devis

[merryhow]

Hi Gracelands, saw these on the IGI, extracted entries.

WALTER HENRY FODEN b 19th Dec 1852, ch 31st Dec 1854 St. George, Birmingham. Father-Joseph, Mother-Mary Ann

If his parents were married this one might be worth considering.

Joseph Foden=Mary Bradley 14th May1848 Cathedral, Manchester.

I know it's not  near Birmingham but you never know.

Also, on FreeCen -  1841 Census Joseph 10yrs ( Barrel Filer)  with Father Joseph 40 (tool maker) and  Mother Ann 40, all born Warwickshire.  

                  Val

[janan]

Looks as if Joseph's mother may have died and his father remarried as this is the picture in 1851

48 New Summer St
Joseph Foden Head M 54 Toolmaker Aston
Sarah do Wife 56 Birmingham
Joseph do Son U 23 Gun Barrel Filer Birmingham
Thomas Adams Brother to wife 53 U Birmingham
HO107/2058/933 Pg12


Doesn't look as if the 1848 marriage can be the one as Joseph is unmarried

Jan