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Re: Ancestry
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 09 July 09 11:57 BST (UK) »
Since doing my tree (which is quite small at the moment) I find I get quite involved in each family member and spend ages trying to get it right.
My cousin is also doing his tree and he has loads of names which don't seem to match our family and what gets me is that he has listed my dad's death as ....................., Somerset, England, Maine, USA. :(
Where did that come from.

Frustrating !!
Doble.  North. Garrish. Jewell. Gillard.
Vincent.  Spiller. Collings. Board.   
Harris. Manfield. Manning. Salter. Eveleigh.
Strawbridge. Matthews. Sweetland.
Devon. NZ. Australia.

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 09 July 09 16:56 BST (UK) »
hi jay just a bit off the topic welcome to the club the christmas day club my dad died 5 years ago this christmas day so its a visit to the crem before dinner every christmas day  when we go there a lot of people are visiting graves or the garden of remembrance but very few people have lost relatives on christmas day.
neil
kenny from ireland befre moveing to north shields  flaxen/flexon from cumnor then sunderland robinson from rothbury then north shields urqhart somewhere in scotland then sunderland

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Re: Ancestry
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 03:29 BST (UK) »
I can understand how you feel a loss is always painful without unthinking folk grabbing the information as if hot off the press!
I am astounded at the number of people particularly Ancestry members of trees that seem to collect information like one would postage stamps. In some cases they use only the Censuses and BMD indexes as proof of our dear families lives. Frequently climbing up the wrong trees by using a lookalike census.
I have thought that I would try and correct their assumptions by just posting a comment to the effect that it is not the number one has but the quality of the information and verification one has researched often at great expense but more often by ones own local knowledge.
But what infuriates me even more is when I see this incorrect information then copied by another person.
I try and and ignore these 'trees', but when I saw your post I was reminded of my own personal sadness.
Thank you
Pat

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 04:35 BST (UK) »
Your experiences make me more determined than ever not to place my very large, but well researched, tree on the web.     I have never copied any information...well never found an actual tree about them anyway.....  My OH's family are mentioned in several online trees, errors and all.

Someone who is not even remotely related to me, placed some of our family information on the web linked to their own web page.  Not in tree form.  When I eventually received a reply to my criticism of having living people listed [my father was mentioned and is still living] I received the comment  'Are you sure?" ::) ::)  I was also informed that his birth is available on the bdm disks for Victoria...but does that give this person the right to place his details online.  He is hoping to make 100 and is nearly there ;D ;D His name is still on the web however the contact email address is no longer valid.

I have also been informed that my complete family ie parents, siblings etc.  is on genes whatever. We are all living.   My friend, who is a member has attempted to contact the owner of the tree, but to date has received no response.

I feel sad and angry when I view the information about my father but always remember what he tells me..."it's incorrect and it isn't important....friends and family who matter know the correct information...and you keep telling me don't believe things just because they are on the internet".  Wise old bloke ;D ;D

Cheers
Cando
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Re: Ancestry
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 06:10 BST (UK) »
He certainly is Cando and I can relate to that. I look at it this way I do it for interest and for my family sometimes I get a few shocks and sometimes a great deal of pleasure in the family's achievements; its reward enough.
Good luck, we all can store our 'stuff' in so many ways today without inviting plagiarism.
Kind regards
Pat

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 07:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Cando

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I have also been informed that my complete family ie parents, siblings etc.  is on genes whatever. We are all living.   My friend, who is a member has attempted to contact the owner of the tree, but to date has received no response.


If you can't contact the tree owner then try contacting GenesReunited direct. One of the problems with the site is that it seems to attract people who soon lose interest and they either ignore contact or they change their email address and don't receive messages. I've got 3 young cousins with trees on the site that consist of 2 to 3 generations, mostly still living that I'm sure have no real interest in genealogy.

With regards to the original message where a death was on Ancestry within 6 weeks I'm thinking that it had to come from someone pretty close originally, they would be the ones I would be having a quiet word with. (well perhaps not so quiet)

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 08:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Andy

Thank you - I will contact genes.  I think the information may have been place there by a researcher on my mother's side who has since died.

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Re: Ancestry
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 09:11 BST (UK) »
I can understand how you feel a loss is always painful without unthinking folk grabbing the information as if hot off the press!
I am astounded at the number of people particularly Ancestry members of trees that seem to collect information like one would postage stamps. In some cases they use only the Censuses and BMD indexes as proof of our dear families lives. Frequently climbing up the wrong trees by using a lookalike census.
I have thought that I would try and correct their assumptions by just posting a comment to the effect that it is not the number one has but the quality of the information and verification one has researched often at great expense but more often by ones own local knowledge.
But what infuriates me even more is when I see this incorrect information then copied by another person.
I try and and ignore these 'trees', but when I saw your post I was reminded of my own personal sadness.
Thank you
Pat

If this is your attitude, then I am at a loss as to why you feel the need to visit Ancestry at all ?  There are lots of other sites where you can look up BMD and census records  ???

Why worry so much about what others are doing ?  You do not own your ancestors - if someone wants to say that your g. grandfather was the son of Julius Ceasar, then there isn't much you can do to stop them, because you do not own copyright on your ancestors.  However, most commercial sites will remove the details of living people if you ask them, (although laws on public information do vary from country to country). 

I have a large tree on Ancestry, and I try to ensure that it is as accurate as possible, but mistakes do sometimes creep in, and if someone points out a mistake, and does it politely, then I will always investigate, and correct where necessary.  I'm also quite happy to accept data from other people, but I never assume that it's correct, and I do as much as I can to verify.  You have to appreciate that with larger trees, it is not possible to verify every single person with certificates, because it would be too expensive.  That's what the whole concept of sites like Ancestry are all about - sharing with others.  What really annoys me are people who don't want to share their information with others, but who are quite happy to subscribe to sites like Ancestry, so they can enjoy the fruits of other people's work.



RIP 1949-10th January 2013

Best Wishes,  Nick.

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Re: Ancestry
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 09:43 BST (UK) »
When my Mum died in 2007 I put her details on my tribalpages tree shortly after her funeral. For me it was another aid to remembrance. It's a private tree though so only open to invited people.
Main names:
Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley, Conway, Stewart
Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey.
Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Nixon, Sharp, Greaves, Naters
Warwickshire and London - Garfield.
Ireland, Co. Kerry - Marah/Meara/Mara, McClure, Howard, Melvin
Lincs - Smith, Vinter

other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, , Stewart, Conway, Heather,

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