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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #18 on: Friday 10 July 09 17:56 BST (UK) »
Jill
That's quite amazing and we seem to be getting somewhere after all. 
Sorry, but I omitted to say that in the 1851 census extract I mentioned earlier, Ann Plumridge - Lodger is marked under the Condition heading 'U' which I assume to mean unmarried.  Her age is, I'm pretty sure, 60 although the last digit is looped in the handwritten 0.
So it would apear that John George Goodwin died quite early on and Rebecca remarried.  I think the pieces of the jig-saw are coming together.  Everyone has been such a help and it's greatly appreciated.

Jack
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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #19 on: Friday 10 July 09 18:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Jack,

It does seem to be coming together - I'll be happier if someone can account for those other people on the same marriage page in Uxbridge, but perhaps I'm being overly cautious!  :-\

Now that you've confirmed the Ann Plumridge was unmarried - it also looks as though she was Rebecca's sister, which would explain why Charles was living with her in 1841. What it doesn't explain is why we can't find a marriage between a Rebecca Plumridge and John/George Goodwin and can't find Rebecca (+ possibly her husband if still alive) on the 1841 census. Did you try other counties or just Bucks? I don't have a sub with Ancestry so my hands are tied as far as the censuses go.

With us not being sure whether father's name was John or George, it's very hard to identify a death, but I did come across this one.

Eton Reg District  June Quarter 1844 John Goodwin  Ref. 6 251

I'll leave it up to you whether you think it worth taking a punt and sending for the certificate. Do you know about the reference checking service they offer? You can put in a detail (e.g. occupation has to be 'servant') and if the certificate doesn't match that reference, they'll only charge you £3 instead of the £7 for the actual certificate.

Another route you could take would be to ask Bucks FHS for a name search - they do them from databases covering baptisms, marriages & burials and they're very reasonable. That's assuming the relevant missing events took place in Bucks of course.

Jill

HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #20 on: Friday 10 July 09 18:49 BST (UK) »
Jack (and Jill)

I was just about to post the death of John GOODWIN in June Qtr 1844 but Jill beat me to it. 

My advice would be to go for the Bucks FHS search before applying for the death certificate as this should find burials in both Eton (where Charles George was baptised) and Farnham Royal (where he later married).  Also, there is still the little problem of John (George) and Rebecca's residence in 1841.

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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #21 on: Friday 10 July 09 18:52 BST (UK) »
I've just realised - I have the PRs for both Fingest and Stokenchurch on CD, courtesy of Oxfordshire FHS. (It's been a busy day and it's only just registered in the brain!).

I've found Ann Plumridge's baptism in Fingest:

Nov 20 1791 daughter of Charles & Jane.

And lo! In Stokenchurch:

Aug 4 1799 Rebecca, d/o Charles & Jane.

So she named her son after her father!

I then pushed my luck and looked for Rebecca's marriage in Stokenchurch, but it's not there.

I'll keep looking!

Jill
HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.


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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #22 on: Friday 10 July 09 19:17 BST (UK) »
Orpheus
I can't find a Rebecca Goodwin in the 1841 census that fits in with the facts as we know them.  I have a John and Rebecca Goodwin in Sutton, Gloucestershire in 1841 but they are still there in the 1861 census which shows they are not our people.

I  recently asked and paid, for the Bucks FHS to search their parish records database and although the baptism of John Goodwin, son of John and Ann Goodwin showed up, the earliest burial they show is 1853 and there are only three Goodwin marriages listed, the earliest being 1834 and none for our two.

Thanks for you continued interest.

Jack
Goodwin - Buckinghamshire/Newcastle-on-Tyne area
Ridgley - Buckinghamshire
Haddow - Lanark, Scotland/Newcastle

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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #23 on: Friday 10 July 09 19:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Jill
My reply to Orpheus answers some of your queries and I think I will ask Bucks CC for the death cert.  I'll keep you informed.

I feel I can certainly start adding the details we now have to my family tree but it would be nice to know where Rebecca and John George were in 1841.  However, with help like yours and from everyone else who has helped so far, I'm sure it will turn up.

Jack
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Haddow - Lanark, Scotland/Newcastle

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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #24 on: Friday 10 July 09 20:02 BST (UK) »
Probably taking a wrong turn here, but can either of you look up a Rebecca Plumridge on the 1841 census in Eton - age is correct (40). I found her on the free search on Find My Past but don't have any credits. I suppose it's possible they never married?  :-\

Jill
HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #25 on: Friday 10 July 09 23:23 BST (UK) »
1841 Colnbrook, Horton

Joseph Plumridge, 67, carpenter, N
Martha        "       , 64,                  Y
Rebecca      "       , 40,                  Y
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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #26 on: Friday 10 July 09 23:31 BST (UK) »
A good try Allisont but I think the person Jill found is living in Horton with parents (?) Joseph and Martha PLUMRIDGE who are aged in their sixties. 

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