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1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« on: Tuesday 07 July 09 16:55 BST (UK) »
My g.g.grandfather was a John George Goodwin who appears on his son's baptism certificate on 27 April 1830 in Eton as "George Goodwin - servant" and as "John George Goodwin - servant" on his son's wedding certificate in Farnham Royal, Bucks. 12 Jan 1852.  I have tried to find more about him but he does not appear on any census that I have checked so far.  On the baptism cert. his wife is shown as "Rebecca".  All searches for Rebecca Goodwin have failed.
It's been suggested to me that John George Goodwin might have been employed at Windsor Castle as a servant and chose to have his son baptised in nearby Eton.  I have been able to record his son's life from 1830 to his death in 1913, but so far, John George and his Rebecca have proved to be the proverbial wall.
Would anyone be kind enough to do a lookup in the 1851 Berks. census to try to trace them for me?
Thanks

Jack
Goodwin - Buckinghamshire/Newcastle-on-Tyne area
Ridgley - Buckinghamshire
Haddow - Lanark, Scotland/Newcastle

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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 17:40 BST (UK) »
might be easier searching for the son c1830 - whats his name, and I'll look in 1841 too   :)

Charles George ?

suspect you know he's lodging in West Wycombe in 1851 ?

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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 17:49 BST (UK) »
Jack,

I assume the son is Charles George who married an Emma ?

In which case in the 1841 and 1851 census he is not living with his parents.

Harry

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I've looked at the census for both Rebecca and John George / George.   I can't see anything obvious.
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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 17:53 BST (UK) »
probably the same Charles is with another family in Chipping Wycombe in 1841

HO107/55/6; High Wycombe; District: 6; Folio: 6; Page: 6
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Ann Plumridge 50  
Mary Plumridge 35  
Jonathan Plumridge 3  
Mary Plumridge 1  
Charles Goodwin 11  (cant read 'occupation - overwritten)
Eliza Martin 25  


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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 18:44 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to Past Master and HarryW. 
The son, Charles George Goodwin was shown in the 1841 census in Chipping Wycombe as "Ind" (over writing what I believe to be "Chairmaker") and I've assumed that to be shorthand for "Indentured" and he was lodging with the Plumridge family.  In the 1851 census in Downley, West Wycombe he is lodging with another family but is now described as a "Chairmaker".  His future wife, Emma Ridgley, is also in Downley and they married the following year.
One year later, Charles George and Emma uplifted home and family to Newcastle-on-Tyne where he remained, working as a chair maker, until his death in 1913.  Emma died three weeks after Charles and they share a grave.
Is Windsor Castle listed in the 1851 census with the staff - rather in the manner of a Union Workhouse where the staff and inmates are all included under the same header in the census pages?  Just a shot in the dark!
Thanks again

Jack
Goodwin - Buckinghamshire/Newcastle-on-Tyne area
Ridgley - Buckinghamshire
Haddow - Lanark, Scotland/Newcastle

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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 18:53 BST (UK) »
I did have a look at all GOODW* names in the areas involved - no sign of a relevant one.

Expect Windsor Castle* is there, but all names will be enumerated - so the searches should have found him - John / George whichever). Some sort of mistranscription is of course possible....

IND (I wondered if twas that, but unsure) on the 1841 usually means 'of Independant Means' ......



*Turns out to be a unique District in the 1851 census, part of PIECE #1695 - 3 pages on individuals resident there.
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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 19:39 BST (UK) »
I doubt he would be of independent means as he was only 11 years old in 1841, which made me guess he was INDentured.
So, do I take it John George Goodwin wasn't among those in the three page Windsor Castle section of the 1851 census?
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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 10:20 BST (UK) »
The Instructions to Enumerators in the 1841 included a standard list of occupations.

You can google up this information.

Indentured wasnt one of them - (Ap (Apprentice) was tho) .... and your lad could have been considered of Independant means if someone was paying his keep.
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Re: 1851 Berkshire census lookup for Goodwin - servant
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 14:51 BST (UK) »
You learn something new every day. 
Thanks for that and I've downloaded the Instructions to Enumerators for future guidance.  I'll also alter my family tree records. 
My wife and I started our research on respective families only a few months ago and so guidance is greatly appreciated.

Jack
Goodwin - Buckinghamshire/Newcastle-on-Tyne area
Ridgley - Buckinghamshire
Haddow - Lanark, Scotland/Newcastle