FLINT brothers (or cousins?)

[JustinL]

I am hoping to help a colleague find out more about his ancestors’ involvement in WWI. Family lore tells of 9 sons (out of 14 children) being killed in action.

The Flint family lived in Ashton New road in Clayton (East Manchester). The war memorial at St. Cross in Clayton bears these names: Dyson Flint, John Flint, Hugh Flint, W.E. Flint.

Dyson was most definitely my colleague’s great-uncle. He served as one of the Manchester Scottish in the 15th Royal Scots, was awarded the MM in 1917 and died on 26 August 1917 probably during the fighting east of Hargicourt (on the Hindenburg Line). His parents were Albert and Alice Hannah Flint.

Dyson had a brother named John (b. 1890 Clayton), but whether this is the man named on the WM is unknown.

How, and if, Hugh and W.E. Flint are related to Dyson is also unknown.

Dyson had the following brothers who would have been old enough to serve:

James, b. 1889
Albert Edward, b. 1891
Leonard, b. 1897
Thomas Buller, b. 1900

I (and my colleague) would appreciate any help or advice.

Rgds,

Justin

[lizdb]

1901
RG13 3766 43 23
307 Ashton New rd
Albert 33 Fish poultry and fruit salesman
Alice H 38
James 11
Albert E 9
Dyson 7             all bn Manchester

I wonder where the other two you mention are?

[lizdb]

This could wel be the Thomas B, bn 1900

Rg13 3765 117 26
Flint Street, Clayton

James H 25  'something' cutter bn Clayton
Mary 23 wife bn bradford
Thomas B 1 bn Clayton

next door

Esther Flint wid 64 something cutter Employer bn Manch.
Thomas 34 son unm bn Manch.
Ellen 23  dtr unm bn Man.

[lizdb]

Have you looked through all the Flints on
http://www.cwgc.org/

certainly Dyson (son of Alice and Albert) are on here

and I saw Hugh too I think.

[JustinL]

That really has surprised me! Were there really only three sons living with Albert and Alice in 1901!

My colleague was intending to buy the 1901 and/or 1911 census returns for his family at the weekend. From my searches on both sites I had identified (possibly erroneously) a much larger family, corresponding to Flint family lore.

My colleague's gf was Nelson Flint born in 1906 in Clayton (RD Prestwich).

I have looked through the CWGC, but few of the records name the parents and only Dyson's match. Unless of course Nelson was not Albert's and Alice's son...

Justin

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1891 gives a bit more on the family

1891
RG12 3282 52 25
43 Barrington Rd Droylesden

Albert 23 Poulterer bnNewton
ALice H 28 bn Clayton
James 1 bn Clayton
Victor 19 brother Fish dealer bn Newton
Ullyses 18 Fustion? Cutter bn Newton


Next door but one:
John 21 Poulterer
Ruth 24
John 7mths   all bn Manchester

So I dont think the John bn 1890 is a brother of Dyson at all. Possibly a cousin, if Albert and John (age 21) are brothers

[lizdb]

I would strongly recommend that your friend gets his granfathers birth cert to ascertain who his parents were!
Or at least get him on 1911....

Oct/Nov/Dec 1906
Nelson Flint
Prestwich ref 8d 357

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1881 helps get it all together a bit more.
I am now pretty certain the John on 1891 was Albert's brother.

RG11 4142 115 11
Flint Buildings, Droylsden

John 51   ?Beer seller? or ?something setter?  bn Man.
Betsy 34  wife
Mary 15 dtr
Albert 13 son
John 11 son
Victor 9 son
Ullyses 7 son
Beatrice 6 dtr bn Beswick
Edward 5 son bn Beswick

everyone else bn Manchester

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1871 indicates that John had been married before Betsy.

Although his age says 31, by looking at the children ages and also at his age in 1881, I think he was probably 41! We will se whan I move on to 1861 in a mo

RG10 4035 122 16
Burnley Street Manchester

John 31 Builder
Betsy 23
Alfred 20 Brick setter
Amelia 10
Mary 5
Albert 3
Arthur 17 Brick setter
John Flint Junior  1 

all bn Manchester.


It is looking as if, as so often happens, your family folkore has an element of truth in it, but gemerations are muddled.

John senior could well have had about 14 children from his two marriages. And he could well have seen 9 of his family killed in action, but it looks as if they were grandsons, and not all brothers.